<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581</id><updated>2011-12-27T22:58:08.141-08:00</updated><category term='buddhism'/><category term='arupa'/><category term='vipassana'/><category term='deceiver'/><category term='conditioning'/><category term='earth'/><category term='triple gem'/><category term='teleodynamics'/><category term='unconditional freedom'/><category term='ether'/><category term='Tillicum'/><category term='advaita'/><category term='feynman'/><category term='emptiness'/><category term='Russ Harris'/><category term='Akhenaten'/><category term='Yan Martel'/><category term='action'/><category term='pinecone'/><category 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term='negative emotions'/><category term='Kundalini'/><category term='Brahman'/><category term='King Tut'/><category term='aperodic'/><category term='Thomas Aquinas'/><title type='text'>Free by Nature</title><subtitle type='html'>&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although conditional conditioning makes it seem that we are not...</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>119</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-3866319733556063036</id><published>2011-09-27T15:45:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-27T15:45:12.160-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Understanding Life</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:3}"&gt;"To understand life, I decided to study life's engineers... proteins!! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:3}"&gt; I broke them down to peptides, into individual amino acids,  into individual atoms and even into electrons, and found them to be mere lifeless probabilities!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:3}"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&amp;quot;type&amp;quot;:3}"&gt; While I was busy closing my fist, the elusive phenomenon called life had slipped through my fingers!!!"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a data-hovercard="/ajax/hovercard/user.php?id=1080003711" href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1080003711"&gt; Pradipta Banerjee&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-3866319733556063036?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' 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src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-6943511112545412222</id><published>2011-09-25T12:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-25T12:13:12.191-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Vishnu'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='analysis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Lila'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dharma'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Shiva'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='body'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='elements'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mind'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brahma'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pipal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spirit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sangha bodhi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Buddha'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Leela'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bael'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='synthesis'/><title type='text'>Symbolism of the Oriental Triple Spiral</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AGLQEzADGX4/TYKqRH-ztQI/AAAAAAAAH8g/6gjwBwfffJY/s1600/Logo+Colored+Triple+Spiral.jpg"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AGLQEzADGX4/TYKqRH-ztQI/AAAAAAAAH8g/6gjwBwfffJY/s1600/Logo+Colored+Triple+Spiral.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: black;"&gt;The "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_spiral"&gt;triple spiral&lt;/a&gt;" represents a variety of symbolic notions: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Buddhist "Triple Gem" - Buddha, Dharma, Sangha:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Buddha - Sacred* Wisdom (Bodhi)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dharma - Sacred Responsibility (Human Duty/Divine Law), &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sangha&amp;nbsp; - Sacred Community&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Hindu "Trinity" - Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva.**&lt;br /&gt;These three Hindu gods are the divine representations of the processes of:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Creation - Brahma (Creator)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Synthesis - Vishnu (Preserver)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Analysis - Shiva (Destroyer of obstacles)&lt;br /&gt;Creation is driven by both the processes of synthesis and analysis! ***&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The "Human Triple Unity" - Spirit, Mind, Body.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;This unity is discernible in the harmoniously developed&amp;nbsp; human. It is expressed by the three functional modalities of play (sacred lila), learning, and work:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spirit - Play (&lt;a href="http://www.cosmicplay.net/Cosmic/Cosmoq/cosmiclila1.html"&gt;sacred lila&lt;/a&gt;) (pertaining to spirited enjoyment, bliss),&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mind - Learning (pertaining to mental reality),&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Body  - Work (pertaining to physical reality).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The first "Three Elements of Antiquity" - Stone, Wood, Water.&lt;br /&gt;These earliest known elements are represented in by a stone edifice, a tree and a well or spring:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stone - house, temple, &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wood - Pipal tree, Bael tree (bodhi tree, tree of knowledge),&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Water - well, spring, (fountain of life).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* Sacred or Human/Divine&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;** Unfortunately, the functionality of the divine  powers of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva is rather misunderstood. E.g.&amp;nbsp;  according to traditional Hindu cosmology Brahma is considered to be the creator,                       Vishnu the preserver and Shiva the destroyer. However  ingrained this interpretation is in Hindu thought, it is a rather  incomplete understanding, &lt;i&gt;especially the role of Shiva as simply the destroyer&lt;/i&gt;!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;*** "There are &lt;a href="http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0605/0605120.pdf"&gt;two major low-level cognitive mechanisms of creativity&lt;/a&gt;: divergent thinking that is the ability to generate original, distinct, and elaborate ideas, and convergent thinking that is the ability to logically evaluate and find the best solution among a variety of feasible alternatives. A parallel between these two mechanisms and the processes of synthesis and analysis of conceptual spaces can naturally be drawn: creativity per se is a balance of synthesis, which usually leads to expanding the conceptual space, and analysis, which is associated with exploring the space. The dynamics of the interaction of divergent and convergent thinking establishes the canonical dynamics of the creative process – the dynamics of creative exploitation and exploration." Source: http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0605/0605120.pdf (page ten) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-6943511112545412222?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/6943511112545412222/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=6943511112545412222' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6943511112545412222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6943511112545412222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/09/symbolism-of-triple-spiral.html' title='Symbolism of the Oriental Triple Spiral'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AGLQEzADGX4/TYKqRH-ztQI/AAAAAAAAH8g/6gjwBwfffJY/s72-c/Logo+Colored+Triple+Spiral.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-2440228496495914975</id><published>2011-09-02T11:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-27T19:51:20.249-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The (His)Story of the Bowl</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;Avalokiteshvara, the Inventor of the Bowl&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Introduction to Avalokiteshvara&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hZNLfwRlTCU/Tjrzf2xMttI/AAAAAAAAIQ8/v0hnL5GzBq0/s1600/Buddha+and+Bowl.jpg" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hZNLfwRlTCU/Tjrzf2xMttI/AAAAAAAAIQ8/v0hnL5GzBq0/s400/Buddha+and+Bowl.jpg" width="280" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(notice the bowl in his hand) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;One of the  oldest Eastern writings that mention the name Avalokiteshvara&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt; (1)&lt;/span&gt; is the &lt;i&gt;Heart Sutra&lt;/i&gt;,  an ancient Sanskrit text  that goes right to the heart of the nature of  existence, the nature of  consciousness, the question of matter and  non-matter, the elements, the  faculties of perception and the  functionality of those sense faculties.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lord Avalokiteshvara  who millennia later also came to be known as the Bodhisattva &lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(2)&lt;/span&gt;  Quan Yin, was not only a wise, very astute and  courageous leader of  his people, he was also a philosopher, discoverer  and inventor. When  he - it must have been some thirteen thousand years ago - moulded his  first clay vessel  from a lump of clay, he became the inventor of  pottery, thus  single-&lt;i&gt;handedly &lt;/i&gt;setting the stage for many early  technological  advances, the products of which are still benefiting  humankind.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know about him through the &lt;i&gt;  Heart Sutra&lt;/i&gt;, a short ancient scripture from India (the English translation from either   Sanskrit or Tibetan, Pali or Chinese versions contains no more than   about 500 words) but this sutra is, in spite of its brevity, still a   rich compilation of mantra like oral segments, commentary texts from   sometimes misunderstanding followers, fragments of highbrow discussions,   pieces of sometimes confused dialog and expressions of veneration.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Introduction to the story - a  different approach&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I wanted to tell his story, but instead  of adding one more to the thousands of already available  commentaries, myths and legends about him, I came up with a very different and rather unique  approach, an approach  that might lead to quite a different but novel  understanding of Avalokiteshvara and the  Heart &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;Sutra&lt;/span&gt;, a less philosophical  one to be sure and seemingly also a less (at first sight at least)  spiritual one.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A  new aspect - at first glance perhaps rather far  fetched, maybe even  absurd - will become clear in the story that I'll  be telling here about  the origin of &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;Avalokiteshvara's&lt;/span&gt;  account in the Heart Sutra. This aspect (about &lt;i&gt;form and emptiness&lt;/i&gt;) is actually quite a &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;soteriological&lt;/span&gt; one, although &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;soteriologic&lt;/span&gt; in a very practical  and utilitarian sense. &lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(3)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I will tell the story of how &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt; made a discovery that  eventually delivered his people - &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt;  humankind - from the thirst  and starvation that had been caused by the  repeated periods of drought  that were characteristic of the climate in  the populated tropical zones  of the planet throughout the end of the  last ice age.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What  follows is a reconstructive fantasy of a sequence of historical events  that took place some thirteen thousand years ago when &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;, a tribal leader, had to  find ways to help his people overcome a severe shortage of drinking water.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I  have also attempted to reconstruct the moment, the  environment and the  mindset of those who were present when one of the  first dualistic  abstractions - form and emptiness - was being made and  explained but…  almost immediately integrated back into the non-dualist  reality of the  concrete sensorially observable world.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The story  then that  follows here is about how, why and when these two words:  'form' and  'emptiness', were first uttered and how far reaching the  consequences  were. Note in the reaction of the tribal audience to &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;’s words, how their  understanding was very practical and utilitarian, while &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;’s  understanding shows us  the beginnings of a deep abstract  understanding concerning concrete  observations that lies at the birth  of philosophy as well as technology.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Story of the Bowl&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;One  day, a very long time ago, close to the dawn of the emergence of  'modern' humankind, the tribal leader &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;   had finally figured it out. For days he had been sitting by the   dried-out riverbed, a former stream that was now only the littlest of a   trickle compared to what it used to be so many years ago when the rains had been more   abundant.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The frown on his forehead had become deeper and deeper,   his mind more and more preoccupied with trying to find a way to deal   with the drought. For a long time he had been trying to find a new   source of drinking water, but although a &lt;i&gt;new source&lt;/i&gt; he had not  found, what he had found though was... a &lt;i&gt;solution&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But  it &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;hadn&lt;/span&gt;’t come easy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As   he had been sitting there on his hunches, looking for ways of how and   where to lead his people to water, he knew that in order to find a   solution, that he first had to clear his mind from the worries he had   about feeding his tribe. And as he succeeded - now with a mind less   disturbed - all the while gazing at a peculiar rock in that now dried-up riverbed, he suddenly realized how in the past the force of the   once wild stream must have hollowed out that rock. He then remembered   how water tended to puddle in those kind of hollowed out rocks and   boulders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He suddenly cupped the palms of his hands  to  mimic the hollow shape that he saw in that rock and he wondered why  he  had never considered that a hollow shape could hold stuff, contain   something... water for instance.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Suddenly he became aware of the   sound that a few drops of water made that still slowly trickled down the   rock wall behind him.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And all of a  sudden he knew it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Aha!"  he exclaimed, and although he  could hardly find the right words to  express what he had just  discovered, he somehow blurted out, "Form is  Emptiness!"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And while  he rushed to his people, he kept shouting, "Form is Emptiness, Form is  Emptiness!"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But  just as he was doing that, he became acutely aware  that what he was  saying could easily be taken the wrong way, something  like…: form had  no substance, or that stuff could be thought of as no  more than an  illusion. So he quickly added, "and Emptiness is Form!"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Huh?... What?"   the tribal members wondered as they watched him running madly down the   hill towards them, "He must be as delirious as all of us are!" (You  see,  by this time extreme dehydration had pretty well affected  everybody and  it resulted in rather erratic and unpredictable  behavior.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"…  and Emptiness is Form!" Avalokiteshvara  shouted once more and he  muttered to himself, "Good thing I added that.  If stuff were just  &lt;i&gt;empty-by-nature&lt;/i&gt;, people could easily conclude that  they would not have  to take responsibility for stuff." As it was, he had  concluded, they had already become too apathetic.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He   was surprised though that the reaction of his people to the discovery he had   just made was quite lackluster. But he could understand why his own   exhilaration did not make any sense to them. So he returned to the river   bed and pondered deeply about how he could make this "Form is   Emptiness, Emptiness is Form" business clear to them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SZdTiW-g9sI/TjsdaVmCUwI/AAAAAAAAIUY/JfoPIASt1og/s1600/dry-river-bed.jpg" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SZdTiW-g9sI/TjsdaVmCUwI/AAAAAAAAIUY/JfoPIASt1og/s1600/dry-river-bed.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Eventually,   as though mesmerized by his memories of how the stream's water had  once  played so wildly with the rocks, sand, mud and clay, and had  created so  many hollows and water filled pockets in the rocks, he came  up with a  way to demonstrate his discovery. He would show them how his  discovery  of form and emptiness could also deliver them from thirst and   starvation...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He looked for a still moist part of the  riverbed  to see if he could find some clay that was still soft enough so  that he  could shape it with his hands. After he found some, he gathered  his  people around him and he took the lump of clay and carefully kneaded  it  into a round shape.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Form!" he shouted, proudly  showing the round lump to the crowd.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"A boulder!"  someone in the crowd  shouted, mumbling that there was nothing special  about such a round shape -  there were after all plenty such round stones and pebbles to be found.  But some of the others were amazed, they realized that their  leader had been able to  produce that shape by himself... with his own  hands... he had just formed a ball from a handful of clay.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then Avalokiteshvara surprised them even more. With  his fist he&lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;&lt;/span&gt; punched a  deep dimple into the ball of clay and he as he held it up, pointing at the hollowed  out shape, he said elatedly, "Emptiness!"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Hollow!" someone shouted back, but clearly not as elated as he was.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But   then, in order to make his point really clear, Avalokiteshvara reached   with this hollow lump of clay for that trickle of water that was   dripping from the rock behind him, letting the hollow ball fill itself slowly with water.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Drink!" he said, while he offered them the  water that it now contained, "Drink from this eh... hollow ball...  eh... &lt;i&gt;bowl&lt;/i&gt;!"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"A bowl?" some in the crowd wondered, "What's a bowl?  Drinking from a ball of clay?!"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But  surprise and  admiration followed soon after they saw how  Avalokiteshvara himself  proceeded to drink water from it himself; water  from a ball of clay that  now, astonishingly, was holding water.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But as no one  came forward yet to drink, &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;   was not sure if the gathering really fully appreciated the importance   and the extent of his demonstration, so he urged them on, and slowly  and  reluctantly - something like this had never ever happened before -  they  came to drink.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When the bowl was empty, &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_28"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt; demonstrated it again,  again filling it from the trickle of water that dripped from the rock. And then, one by one, they came to drink from the bowl.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Eventually the bowl lost  its shape so &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_29"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;  moulded it back into a ball shape and again he punched a deep dimple  into it and again he turned it into a bowl.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He then picked up  another lump of clay and while he put the previously made bowl aside, he  repeated the process, and eventually all of the tribal members came to have a drink. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Some time later he got the idea  that if he would let the bowls sit to dry  and let them bake in the sun, that  the bowls would keep their shape longer, and  so he proceeded to make more  bowls, even some large ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Eventually  some of the tribal  members began to copy him and over time they realized that  they had  found a way to collect large quantities of water from small  sources. In the past they would have run out of water  altogether. They also discovered that they could keep large quantities of fresh water in clay pits in order to save it for later use.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_30"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;   did not stop with his keen observations, over time he figured out how   rock, clay, water, clouds and even fire formed. He discovered the   principle of what he called skandhas. &lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(4)&lt;/span&gt; (Something we nowadays call aggregates or phase states.)&lt;br /&gt;He would explain his discoveries and insight this to  his  people. He discerned how there are five distinct gradations between  &lt;i&gt;the  very hard and concrete&lt;/i&gt; such as the rocky earth, and &lt;i&gt;the very subtle &lt;/i&gt;such  as the skies and its clouds. He formulated how &lt;i&gt;form &lt;/i&gt;can turn  into &lt;i&gt;emptiness &lt;/i&gt;through  five stages: from earth to water, to fire,  to air, to open space: from  the gross to the subtle through a sequence  of five in-between steps or  (the way we say it nowadays) from solid to  liquid, to plasma, to vapor  and to vacuousness &lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(6)&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He also discovered  the correlation between  these five elemental or aggregate states and  the five senses: &lt;br /&gt;, human  touch had mostly to do with solids,&lt;br /&gt;, taste with  liquids,&lt;br /&gt;. sight had to do  with light and fire,&lt;br /&gt;. smell concerned vapors and  gas, and&lt;br /&gt;. hearing  involved space and the vibrations through it - like  drumbeats.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Although  he must have been aware that much  of what he said went over the heads  of the ones he tried to explain it  to, he knew that the practical  applications of his insights would keep  everyone healthier, happier and  freer. They would drink fresher water,  collected from cleaner sources  rather than murky pools. They would be  able to store food in lidded  vessels and keep it from going bad. They  could now save it for times  when supplies would not be plenty. He figured that they would even be able to use their  fires to turn the clay vessels into reusable  pots. There was no end to  this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;With his insight into  the five elements and the five senses he would teach everyone how to use  them to a better advantage.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He  helped his people to  use their faculties more sensibly and  acutely so that they could  distinguish between reality and imagination, especially the  fearful imaginations and illusions that  were instilled into them in the  past, illusions that had kept them  trapped into subservience through  trickery by fear and  misinformation... but that is &lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2006/08/valley.html"&gt;another  story&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Thus &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_32"&gt;Avalokiteshvara&lt;/span&gt;,  helped them to reclaim their original free nature and retain it rather  than falling back into subservience.&lt;b style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: black;"&gt;Notes:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="320" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5067506886010916354" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/RlNmqf2GzgI/AAAAAAAAAAs/UQd6ClbvvaM/s320/Heart+Sutra.bmp" style="margin: 0px auto 10px;" width="264" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Heart Sutra text in Sanskrit&lt;br /&gt;One of the oldest scriptures&lt;br /&gt;in which Avalokiteshvara appears. &lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(5, 8)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(1)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;It is interesting to note that the Sanskrit name Avalokiteshvara literally means 'The (tribal) lord (&lt;i&gt;ishvara&lt;/i&gt;) who from above overlooks (&lt;i&gt;avalo&lt;/i&gt;) the world (&lt;i&gt;ki&lt;/i&gt; cf. the greek &lt;i&gt;ge&lt;/i&gt;); &amp;nbsp;definitely a lord who did 'dig' this world and observed it with a keen eye, consciously and compassionately looking with understanding.&lt;span style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;It may be no coincidence that the title 'bishop', which comes from the Greek '&lt;i&gt;episkopos' &lt;/i&gt;(a&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;watcher, overseer having an all-round overseeing view) has a similar meaning as '&lt;i&gt;avalokiteshvara'.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(2)&lt;/span&gt;   'Bodhisattva' (Sanskrit), a human being whose essence is  enlightenment.  From 'bodhi' (knowledge, wisdom, lucid insight) and  'sattva', essence,  being ('sat' is existence).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(3)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;Soteriology&lt;/span&gt;  - the doctrine of deliverance and salvation; from the Greek '&lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;soterion&lt;/span&gt;', 'deliverance'; from &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;soter&lt;/span&gt;, savior; from the Sanskrit/Aryan  root &lt;span id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;SAR&lt;/span&gt; /SAL, to keep whole, to  save, to keep safe. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(4)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The five &lt;i&gt;skandhas&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="-moz-font-feature-settings: normal; -moz-font-language-override: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;five elements: earth, water, fire, air, space,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="-moz-font-feature-settings: normal; -moz-font-language-override: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;five aggregates: solid, liquid, plasmic, vapor, sound,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;five attributes: rupa, samskara, sanjna, vedana, vijnana - five from a range of twelve nidanas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;five senses: touching, tasting, seeing, smelling, hearing,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;five organs of perception: hands, mouth, eyes, nose, ears.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;Notice the vertical and horizontal order in the five series of &lt;i&gt;skandhas&lt;/i&gt; listed above. These five series can be divided into two groups:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;The &lt;i&gt;top three series represent the observable (form) and are thus the &lt;u&gt;material&lt;/u&gt; skandhas that we &lt;u&gt;perceive&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;bottom two series are the &lt;u&gt;psycho-physical&lt;/u&gt;&lt;i&gt; skandhas&lt;/i&gt;  that are initially without observations (hence their emptiness), but  that fill themselves up, so to speak, with data. Thus the bottom two  series of &lt;i&gt;skandhas &lt;/i&gt;are used to &lt;u&gt;perceive with&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;"&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(5&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Unicode" style="text-decoration: none; white-space: normal;" title="International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; The Heart Sutra finishes with the Sanskrit :&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;गते गते पारगते पारसंगते  बोधि स्वाहा&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Unicode" style="text-decoration: none; white-space: normal;" title="International Alphabet of Sanskrit Transliteration"&gt;gate  gate pāragate pārasaṃgate bodhi svāhā &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(7)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;My interpretation and translation:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;"Go,  going, gone... gone all the way - we made it."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I like to interpret this mantra like the use of  the song &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNsEH1GD7Q"&gt;We shall  overcome&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt;  anthem of the US civil rights  movement of the  nineteen-sixties when  this song was so enthusiastically sung, helping to  successfully  overcome the racial challenges of that age.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Dealing with challenges involves four stages:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0in;" type="1"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; margin-top: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Recognizing to overcome a challenge: '&lt;i&gt;gate&lt;/i&gt;' 'go' (imperative or     infinitive),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; margin-top: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Practicing (&lt;i&gt;tapasya&lt;/i&gt;)     overcoming that challenge: '&lt;i&gt;g&lt;span class="unicode"&gt;ā&lt;/span&gt;te&lt;/i&gt;'     'going' (present participle),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Success!     Having overcome the challenge: '&lt;i&gt;paragate&lt;/i&gt;'     'gone' (past participle),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="unicode"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The challenge is fully     behind us: '&lt;i&gt;pārasaṃgate&lt;/i&gt;': 'having gone all the way, we made it.'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(6)&lt;/span&gt; "Quintessence" - a newly formulated scalar field. &amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(7) &lt;/span&gt;"Bodhi" is enlightened insight, while "svāhā" is an expression of success, victory. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(8) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;For more in depth notes on the original "Heart Sutra" text go to part four of:&amp;nbsp; 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&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;(1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: When reading the following words by the Buddha, imagine that he, while speaking, was actually pointing to various parts of his body:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;to his brow when he talked about the      mind, &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;to his chest when he talked about his      heart and sensuality, &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;to his navel when he talked about the      fermentation of becoming, &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;to the top of his head (higher awareness)      when he talked about ignorance.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;'When the mind was thus concentrated, purified, bright, unblemished, rid of defilement, pliant, malleable, steady &amp;amp;amp;amp;attained imperturbability, I directed it to the knowledge of the ending of the mental fermentations. I discerned, as it was actually present, that 'This is stress... (2) This is the origination of stress... This is the cessation of stress... This is the way leading to the cessation of stress... These are fermentations...(3) This is the origination of fermentations... This is the cessation of fermentations... This is the way leading to the cessation of fermentations.' My heart, thus knowing, thus seeing, was released from the fermentation of sensuality, released from the fermentation of becoming, released from the fermentation of ignorance. With release, there was the knowledge, 'Released.' I discerned that 'Birth is ended, the holy life fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for this world.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~ The Buddha in a conversation with the Jain Sage Saccaka (4)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Notes:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1) There are many commentators who wonder why the usual list... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Dukkha or Stress, Mental Suffering -&lt;/i&gt; its existence (2), &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Samudaya&lt;/i&gt; - its origination, &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nirodha&lt;/i&gt; - its cessation,&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Magga&lt;/i&gt; - the way leading to the cessation of &lt;i&gt;dukkha &lt;/i&gt;(5),&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;...is so grandly named 'The Four Noble Truths'.&lt;br /&gt;When I went deeply into the original text (as much Pali and Sanskrit as I could figure out) and the many variations of translations and interpretations, I eventually saw an additional series of four points emerge. It then dawned on me why this part of the Buddha's teachings was called 'The Four Noble Truths'. What I noticed was, when I&lt;i&gt; while reading&lt;/i&gt;, pointed to the various parts of my body as suggested above, that the Buddha in his conversation with Saccaka, clearly put emphasis on his:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;mind, '…ending of the mental      fermentations…'&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;heart, '…release from the fermentation      of sensuality…'&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;will, '…release from the fermentation of      becoming…'&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;awareness, '…release from the      fermentation of ignorance.'&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;(2) &lt;i&gt;Dukkha&lt;/i&gt; - In this version translated as 'stress'&lt;br /&gt;Etymologically &lt;i&gt;'dukkha'&lt;/i&gt; can be understood as being 'led astray or cut away from oneself'. &lt;i&gt;Dukkha&lt;/i&gt; consists of two parts duk- and -kha, from the Aryan / Sanskrit roots DUK and GHA.&lt;br /&gt;DUK means 'to go' or 'to lead', as in the English duct, seduction, conduct, production, duke.&lt;br /&gt;GHA, KA or KAD mean 'cut away' or 'fall away', as in the English 'cathode', 'catastrophe', 'cut'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(3) Fermentation: effluent or mental diarrhea - confusion &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(4) An excerpt from 'The Longer Discourse to Saccaka' MN 36 PTS: M i 237&lt;br /&gt;© 2008–2011 translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Another translation using the word 'effluent' insteadof 'fermentation':&lt;a href="http://www.buddhanet.net/w_s1.htm"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.buddhanet.net/w_s1.htm&lt;/a&gt;(the last two paragraphs)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(5) The 'Eightfold Path' and the 'Triple Gem' were designed by the Buddha to accomplish the cessation of suffering and confusion. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;~~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A free translation treatment of the Buddha's Four Noble Truths:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;'When my mind became focused, pure and clear, unstained by any defilement, when it became flexible and steady and when it could no longer be disturbed, I aimed it at finding out how to end all mental stress and confusion and I found that (1): &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;w&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;hen the mind is filled with the ferment of confusion that that is mental suffering,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;that from this ferment more stress and suffering arises.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;I &amp;nbsp;concluded though that all this mental suffering and confusion can be overcome, so&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;I looked for and found the way that leads to the release of suffering and mental confusion. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;When I focused on my heart, I found how this knowledge also released me from the ferment of &lt;b&gt;emotional &lt;/b&gt;confusion.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;And when I focused on my will (2), this knowledge relieved me from the confusion that leads to willful strife.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;As to my higher awareness, this knowledge released me from the confusion of not knowing who I am. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;With this release, I now know what freedom (3) is.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I now know how birth comes to its fruition, how divine life fulfills itself. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Nothing further is needed in this world. That's it.'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~ After the Buddha&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Notes: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(1) The Four Noble Truths:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;The existence of &lt;i&gt;dukkha&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The origination of &lt;i&gt;dukkha&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The cessation of&lt;i&gt; dukkha,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The method for the cessation of &lt;i&gt;dukkha&lt;/i&gt; (4).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;(2)&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;The will - seated in the &lt;i&gt;'hara'&lt;/i&gt; according to Zen - when deviated a dysfunctional will drives one to '&lt;b&gt;become&lt;/b&gt; that, what one presumes one &lt;b&gt;ought&lt;/b&gt; to be'&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(3)&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;Hence, the possibility of &lt;i&gt;'moksha'&lt;/i&gt;, freeing oneself from &lt;i&gt;dukkha&lt;/i&gt;, a return to one's authentic self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(4) The 'Eightfold Path' and the 'Triple Gem' were designed by the Buddha to accomplish the cessation of suffering and confusion. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-317022925951091548?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/317022925951091548/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=317022925951091548' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/317022925951091548'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/317022925951091548'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/07/buddhas-four-nobel-truths-1-traditional.html' title='The Buddha&apos;s Four Noble Truths'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1263388347103730249</id><published>2011-06-28T11:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:24:01.502-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='subservience'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='impermanence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='illusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='suffering'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Happiness Trap'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ego'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Russ Harris'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ramana Maharshi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='innate freedom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='entrapment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='awareness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conditions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conditioning'/><title type='text'>The usual road to freedom leads to quite a few pitfalls...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;Introducing "The Happiness Trap" *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table class="cquote"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="background-color: #4c1130; color: #b2b7f2; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-size: 35px; font-weight: bold; padding: 10px; text-align: left;" valign="top" width="30"&gt;“&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="padding: 4px 10px;" valign="top"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;W&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;ords inside our head, we call "thoughts"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Do      any of the following thoughts  sound familiar?  "I'm not doing it      right." "It's useless; I may as well  give up  now. This a waste of      time!" "I'm an idiot!" "Why aren't I   practicing what I read in that      book?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;~ Russ Harris MD - The Happiness Trap&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style="background-color: #4c1130; color: #b2b7f2; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; font-size: 35px; font-weight: bold; padding: 10px; text-align: right;" valign="bottom" width="20"&gt;”&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In order not to lead the reader astray on the "usual road  to freedom" - a road which actually leads to quite a number of  pitfalls&lt;b&gt;** -&lt;/b&gt; I have carefully stayed away in the articles on this site from offering any hints,  directions, suggestions or  methods    on how to undo or overcome  suffering, how to deal with, say,  depression, how   to reclaim  our innate freedom, etc. Whatever  we tend to do to   alleviate  our suffering, it actually  increases it, and regarding freedom, in  one of the articles here I mention:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1336701834"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1336701834"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2005/11/if-we-lose-our-natural-freedom-can-we.html"&gt;"The actions we tend to take to gain, retain, regain or safeguard our freedom, are the very actions that prevent us from realizing that freedom."&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2007/10/causality-interdependence-impermanence.html"&gt;"Suffering is always characterized by the fact that it includes failing attempts to alleviate itself."&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So, rather than offering dubious ways out, and rather than having the reader step into just another trap (just read Harris' book) the intent of the articles on this site has always been to offer &lt;i&gt;understanding and insight into the &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;dynamics &lt;/b&gt;of the unfortunate acquisition of belief in our apparent loss or lack of freedom.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I feel that it helps that tracing and describing&lt;b&gt; how  and why&lt;/b&gt; the belief in that lack or loss of freedom has been acquired (instilled in those &lt;i&gt;who were led to believe that they actually &lt;/i&gt;do &lt;i&gt;lack that freedom or&lt;/i&gt; have indeed&lt;i&gt; lost it)&lt;/i&gt; that its sting will slowly diminish. However, I have been quite aware that this approach does not help the recipient of those beliefs and thoughts, to let go of them. To discover that thoughts and beliefs are a not a "true" representation of reality, is not the same thing as being able to let go of those thoughts and beliefs... if that is needed of course.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To those who would like to effectively let go of &lt;i&gt;unhelpful thoughts and beliefs,&lt;/i&gt; I highly and strongly recommend reading, practicing and applying the directions and suggestions by Russ Harris MD in his book &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Trap-Struggling-Start-Living/dp/1590305841/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1#reader_1590305841"&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Happiness Trap&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_660945833"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="166" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SuVSzxiyEDI/TgpaPmkva9I/AAAAAAAAIA0/x__KUm3wmsM/s200/happiness+trap.jpg" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Trap-Struggling-Start-Living/dp/1590305841/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1#reader_1590305841"&gt;click &lt;b&gt;this line &lt;/b&gt;for a preview &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-consciousnesshttp://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Trap-Struggling-Start-Living/dp/1590305841/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1309282289&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span id="goog_660945815"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_660945816"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Russ  Harris gently and consistently helps his readers to adopt and apply effective ways to &lt;b&gt; defuse &lt;/b&gt;the power of the very thoughts that causes the thinker of those  thoughts to wrongly assume that they represent reality... which thoughts - any thoughts really - actually never do...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;How so? Well, don't hesitate to get and peruse the book.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Whereas in my article &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2006/10/how-were-we-made-to-think-we-are-who.html"&gt;How we were made to think who we are&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, I show&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;how and why&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;people are made to believe &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;the illusion of who they appear &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;to be, that that is who they are, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;and how and why&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;people are made to believe that what they ought to be is what they should become...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Russ Harris shows his readers how to &lt;b&gt;deal &lt;/b&gt;with  those beliefs and thoughts and how to "defuse" them, so that one eventually ends up not  only being aware of one's real being but also that &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;one recovers and &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;lives the reality &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;that one is who one actually already always was and will be...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt; - minus the deviating power of illusive thinking of course - &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Whereas in my articles &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2011/03/ownership-of-your-thoughts.html"&gt;The Ownership of Your (?) Thoughts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2010/06/negativity-only-looks-like-reality.html"&gt;Your (?) thoughts and emotions - whose are they really?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;  I trace and show&lt;b&gt; how and why&lt;/b&gt; thoughts came to be assumed to be one's  own, the many exercise in "The Happiness Trap" guide the reader on how to successfully dis-empower and eventually disown those thoughts.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is not  that Russ Harris tells his readers that unhelpful thoughts &lt;i&gt;will  disappear&lt;/i&gt; - on the contrary! In a careful and persistent manner he steers his readers  away from putting the expectation of the result of the exercises before  the actual doing of those exercises... and he is quite right in doing that... lest the "Happiness Trap" closes on the reader.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But I myself can be a little less  careful as I don't believe there is any danger in telling people that  &lt;i&gt;all-too-often&lt;/i&gt; thoughts are no more than commodities - products on a  store shelf - and that when one buys (into) them, that the shelves displaying those thoughts will remain well stocked.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nvJ7xtSs5MA/Tgpn_Qjz2eI/AAAAAAAAIA4/_AbI2e8od1s/s1600/self+conscious.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nvJ7xtSs5MA/Tgpn_Qjz2eI/AAAAAAAAIA4/_AbI2e8od1s/s320/self+conscious.jpg" width="110" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;"Thoughts as merchandize" may well be a supply-and-demand thing. When the demand  diminishes (by disbelieving and defusing unhelpful thoughts) that just like with goods*** for which there are no takers, those goods will eventually disappear off the shelves.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Chapter 23 in "The Happiness Trap" is an excellent and&amp;nbsp; penultimate treatment of what awareness is and how to "become aware" of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Whereas in my article &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2005/12/awareness-true-being-and-being-true.html"&gt;Awareness: True Being and Being True&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, I describe what awareness is (also awareness' etymological roots), Harris effectively guides his readers in how to kindle their awareness, how to "notice noticing" by simply "observing", without any danger for the observer to fall into the trap of becoming "&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-consciousness"&gt;self-conscious&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Whoever has been inspired - but possibly also  'in the end' stumped - by Ramana Maharshi's self-inquiry "&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramana_Maharshi#Teachings"&gt;Who am I?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;"   will find Dr. Harris' book a great help in eventually realizing - actually, factually and functionally - that... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;One can  and will  be who one is without any thoughts about how to be.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Notes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* The &lt;b style="color: #741b47;"&gt;bold colored&lt;/b&gt; lines are clickable links.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;** Except for the physical exercises that I offer in &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://thekundaliniprocess.blogspot.com/2009/11/in-depth-introduction-to-chakra-system.html"&gt;The Integrated Yawning and Stretching Technique&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; on "The Kundalini Process" blog. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;*** or bads :) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1263388347103730249?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1263388347103730249/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1263388347103730249' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1263388347103730249'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1263388347103730249'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/06/usual-road-to-freedom-actually-leads-to_28.html' title='The usual road to freedom leads to quite a few pitfalls...'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SuVSzxiyEDI/TgpaPmkva9I/AAAAAAAAIA0/x__KUm3wmsM/s72-c/happiness+trap.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1299136794630527650</id><published>2011-06-09T16:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-04T13:45:35.777-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='suffering'/><title type='text'>Is Suffering an Illusion?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uOby0Bfm10M/TjsExZv4oyI/AAAAAAAAISw/Mq7aa8abXUk/s1600/suffering.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="310" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uOby0Bfm10M/TjsExZv4oyI/AAAAAAAAISw/Mq7aa8abXUk/s400/suffering.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What pain and suffering have in common is that both have external causes. The &lt;b&gt;nature &lt;/b&gt;of those external causes though differs very much:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pain is brought about by external negative &lt;b&gt;physical &lt;/b&gt;hurt - directly or indirectly- a hurt that is physically and tangibly real. &lt;br /&gt;Although pain is subjectively felt, it is also objectively measurable*. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Suffering is caused by external negative &lt;b&gt;mental &lt;/b&gt;hurt - directly- a hurt that is brought about by &lt;i&gt;mala fide &lt;/i&gt;(of ill intent) perpetrators who use deceptive illusion to inflict a mental ill that is intended to make their victim(s) subservient (or redundant). &lt;br /&gt;Suffering is subjectively experienced but is not objectively measurable the same way pain is**.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: justify;"&gt;A characteristic of the suffering that is the result of this ill intended deceptive illusion is that the&amp;nbsp; illusion in it is being &lt;b&gt;presented and treated as being even more real than tangible physical reality&lt;/b&gt;. Whereas physical pain tends to happen accidentally and statistically, that what is deceptively threatened, has been made to be experienced in such a way that it can take place &lt;b&gt;at any time - all the time;&lt;/b&gt; ergo, it is made to appear imminent and present. The result of this perceived imminence and seeming presence is that the &lt;b&gt;fear for the threat to be executed any moment&lt;/b&gt; is felt as a &lt;b&gt;constant&lt;/b&gt;. That mentally felt constancy and seeming imminent presence is what makes it appear to be more real than reality as the 'really' felt presence of fear (which is also present in the nervous and muscular system) never goes away. ***&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This type of&amp;nbsp; deceptive illusion uses the &lt;b&gt;threat &lt;/b&gt;of physical pain as a tool to make the illusion &lt;b&gt;seem as real as the actual infliction of physical pain&lt;/b&gt;. The use of this kind of illusion is invariably preceded or accompanied by actual "sample" inflictions of physical pain, if not the killing of&amp;nbsp; "sample" victims.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Although suffering is entirely mental, it is always accompanied by &lt;b&gt;threatened &lt;/b&gt;physical pain or the&amp;nbsp; the &lt;b&gt;expectation &lt;/b&gt;of painful death.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The fact that the feared infliction is a&lt;b&gt; threat only&lt;/b&gt; is what characterizes it to be an illusion. The reason that such threats are&lt;b&gt; threats only&lt;/b&gt; is because the perpetrator does not really want to execute the threats lest he loses his subservient victim(s). (E.g. in general, a sexual predator who threatens to kill his victims would not really want to kill them, lest he cannot sexually abuse them.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Very often suffering is seen or treated as a "maneuver" that a suffering person is using in a manipulative manner; often the sufferer is blamed for this manipulative "scheming". It is unfair and unfortunate though that the kind of manipulative actions of suffering people are understood and treated that way. A case can be made that suffering people have the right, the prerogative or even the privilege to "use" their suffering in a legit manner to "affect or control" their situation - after all, they unfairly lost their right to a life free of pain and suffering in such an illegitimate way.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more on this topic please read:&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2006/07/is-life-suffering-or-illusion.html"&gt;Is life suffering or illusion?&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;* Measurement of nerve conductance via electrodes.&lt;br /&gt;** At least not yet, unless fMRI technology makes it "visible".&lt;br /&gt;*** Compare the last sentence with a statement by&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt; Philip K. Dick in his book &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Valis-Philip-K-Dick/dp/0679734465/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1274348372&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Valis&lt;/a&gt;"   (1981)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick"&gt;"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;For a treatment of this statement please read:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/%20%20%20http://www.freebynature.org/2010/09/reality-does-not-require-belief.html%20"&gt;Reality does not require belief.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1299136794630527650?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1299136794630527650/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1299136794630527650' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1299136794630527650'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1299136794630527650'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/06/is-suffering-illusion.html' title='Is Suffering an Illusion?'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uOby0Bfm10M/TjsExZv4oyI/AAAAAAAAISw/Mq7aa8abXUk/s72-c/suffering.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-5205752818263921418</id><published>2011-05-26T23:11:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-10T11:17:39.598-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dependency'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nagarjuna'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='non-dualism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='freedom'/><title type='text'>Causality and Time</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;a href="http://paradigm-update.blogspot.com/2006/07/causality-and-time.html"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class="post-header"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OO5Gj8xpXq8/TfGYkMgX-yI/AAAAAAAAIAw/CLkd429UVAw/s1600/296px-Wooden_hourglass_3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OO5Gj8xpXq8/TfGYkMgX-yI/AAAAAAAAIAw/CLkd429UVAw/s320/296px-Wooden_hourglass_3.jpg" width="157" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The way bricks are laid... and the way thoughts arise...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pete:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Concerning how our thoughts follow up on each-other and whether or not we are in &lt;i&gt;control of their sequence.&lt;/i&gt;.. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Forget for a moment about the brain, and think of a brick house,  each brick laid dictates the position of the next one, but it's the  bricklayer who places the bricks. So, in the case of the brain, it's the thinker, his thinking skills and his practice that play the role of bricklayer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;E.J.:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Yeah but it seems to me that there has to have been a brick or two  already laid before a particular pattern (practice) becomes evident. I mean I worked  with bricklayers and there's always a layout guy that goes ahead and  sets up the pattern. Not to mention bricks already made and abundant enough and in the same area. So, I'm saying that if practice makes patterns then there must be a  pattern already made to start a practice.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pete:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Look at it this other way,&amp;nbsp;although, things arise co-dependently, they also happen sequentially.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Ah, Pete, just what I was waiting for... :), I also see that simultaneity!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The issue of cause-and-effect... (the way we nowadays tend to see how  an unfolding of action is brought about by something prior to that  action; the way we tend to see action as a re-action or  follow-through-action to a previous action) ... was not known to early &lt;i&gt;non dualist &lt;/i&gt;thinkers like the Buddha or Nagarjuna... at least not the same way we currently explain 'causation' or 'causality'.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratitya-samutpada"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratitya-samutpada&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When they spoke of causality they spoke of co-dependent arisings or interdependent origination (that's how &lt;i&gt;pratitya-samutpada &lt;/i&gt;usually  gets translated). They did not speak about 'cause and subsequent  effect' or 'action and subsequent reaction' in a time-wise  unidirectional linear sort of sense. Their notion of co-dependent or  interdependent arisings also always included more than two linked  dependencies. &lt;i&gt;Pratitya-samutpada &lt;/i&gt;was seen as a complex web of  interferences... the way my mother said it once, &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Everything has got  everything to do with everything else, but the way we see time, messes things up in such a way that we don't see anything anymore the way things actually happen."&lt;br /&gt;(In Dutch,&amp;nbsp; "Alles heeft met elkaar te maken, maar hoe we met  tijd omspringen,&lt;br /&gt;is hoe we er geen touw meer aan vast kunnen knopen.")&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Our way of looking at 'happenings' linearly and one-directionally time-wise, is also steeped in a rather recent materialistic way of looking at  what is, a paradigm that excludes 'anything considered to be opposite  to the materialist definition as non-existent or not-extant and thus  deniable, dubious or at least negligible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The dualist paradigm made us divide the world into materialistic and  non-materialistic 'notions'... a dualism that over time easily invited  either one monism (materialism) or the other (spiritualism) to be deemed  the only reality - either one judged by some kind of socio-moral  acceptance, resistance, skepticism or denial.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This is not to say that before those divergent paradigms developed so  contrastingly, that the world was seen more whole... obviously not...  otherwise people like a Buddha or a Nagarjuna would not have arrived on the scene up expounding  their insights.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;One thing though, in their days - before the 'age of the clock' - time  was experienced differently. That is... if time was experienced at all  !!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To us - who are so bonded to the clock from birth on (birth all too  often scheduled by appointment, our feeding patterns, breast or bottle,  so timely regulated) - when we look back into history (something that we  clearly make up as we go) we all too much project &lt;b&gt;our &lt;/b&gt;description of time onto whatever we may see as experienced in our stories of the past.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;That means that if we want to understand "co-dependant arisings", etc.,  we have to clear our understanding of the insights of Buddha  incarnations from our 'time' interpretations.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When we do that, when we take &lt;b&gt;our &lt;/b&gt;understanding of time out of their causality/causation equation, then, as a consequence, we also subtract &lt;b&gt;our &lt;/b&gt;assumed  one-directional temporal linearity from it. Thus we will end up seeing  and understanding their &lt;i&gt;'pratitya-samutpada'&lt;/i&gt; more clearly. When we also,  in order to even better understand, include that in those days less  materialistic 'drivers-and-drivens' were not denied, it might become  evident that even non-material elements (so to speak) were part of the  web of mutual reciprocal simultaneous interferences...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To illustrate the multi-directionality of time in structures operating  in dimensions less tiny than the sub-nuclear,&amp;nbsp;let me mention&amp;nbsp;autopoiesis  and teleodynamics, creative dynamics in which future patterns influence  past arrangements or arrangements still to take place. (Geometrically  Penrose (1989) identified such teleo-patterning in the way certain  aperiodic crystals foresee their final non-periodic quasi-crystalline  formation and set up beforehand to reach that shape.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;At any rate, I suggest it behooves us to wake up or re-awaken some  intuitions, notions or ideas that we may very well harbor, conceptions  perhaps that could be in line with a reality that differs radically from  the assumptions that we held for real while they adulterated our  observations of and in reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As well, we should hone our non-dual paradigm and ensure that, as we  profess our nondualism, that we exclude dualist remnants that might  still stick to us by force of habit, which only by way of habitual  thinking seem to make sense - in spite of them being mental residue,  being no more than non-sensorial nonsense.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pete:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well Wim, let's keep this simple and let us stick to the point I was  trying to make. As far as sequentiality and cause and effect goes,  watching a ballet, it seems that the beginning of a certain melodic  theme causes the entrance of a certain dancer, and that a dimming of the  lights causes the exit of another, etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As we play life, that might indeed seem so... artistically, artificially in an artsy sense. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pete:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well, no, I don't think it just &lt;i&gt;seems &lt;/i&gt;so. I mean, although this  is still a metaphor, in the biological ballet that takes place in our  head, neuronal connections always precede mental acts, and mental acts  call for more neuron connections. No ticket, no laundry; no brain, no  consciousness.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It looks to me that in what you just said, that you include a certain  'webbedness' as well as some very welcome physical/mental integrative  considerations.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Your view though seems to be in a one dimensional temporal way, albeit... bi-directional and that is great!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You may remember that I once suggested time to be two dimensional and  that time - the square of time actually - is part of that 11 dimensions  space-time String Theory, the extra dimension being an additional  temporal dimension - orthogonal to our usual description of time. I said  something like, "Heck, there might even be some kind of  multi-dimensionality to time. The collapse of the wave function always  involves a squaring of space/time vectors. We have to square with  time... square off with time, really!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In Quantum Mechanics with certain complex representations of probability  functions 'upon collapse', time also gets squared and... that's the  crux of the matter... time's linearity and sequentiality disappear...  and it is that what allows for that coincidental simultaneity of what is  usually seen as dichotomous, dual, linear and sequential."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What we as humans tend to do in an attempt to gain a simple grasp of  seemingly complex reality is to do something that is akin to taking the  'square root of it'...: something comparable to how we find it easier to  visualize the size of a 225 square mile forest fire when we take the  root of 225 and visualize the size of the forest fire to be 15 miles  long by 15 miles wide.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The way we attempt to understand the dynamic 'a m b i e n c e' of life  (the totality of surrounding conditions and circumstances affecting  growth or development: atmosphere, climate, environment, medium, milieu,  mise en scène, surroundings, world ~ Houghton Mifflin) is something  similar: we take the square root of it: the nine dimensions of 11 D  space-time (M theory) become three dimensions (the remaining six  becoming hidden) and t (time) to the power of two become just t (time).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;That 'root taking' produces a modicum of simplicity: we can follow it,  there is sequence and linearity, order is simpler in lower orders of  magnitude, we can 'geometrically' oversee it... &lt;b&gt;forgetting though &lt;/b&gt;that  this calculated simplicity only represents the square root of  totality... and thus we, analyzing and simplifying, we live now in and  according to a derivation of reality... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-5205752818263921418?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/5205752818263921418/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=5205752818263921418' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5205752818263921418'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5205752818263921418'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/05/causality-and-time.html' title='Causality and Time'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OO5Gj8xpXq8/TfGYkMgX-yI/AAAAAAAAIAw/CLkd429UVAw/s72-c/296px-Wooden_hourglass_3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-2360157094234550094</id><published>2011-05-22T19:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-24T15:43:37.355-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Cosmic Memory</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% yellow; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Diving deeper&lt;br /&gt;(Are you coming with me?)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rmQBRl4TwNo/TdnSSZWUyTI/AAAAAAAAH_A/ZsO-dxsi6ek/s1600/cosmic-foc-middle.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="121" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rmQBRl4TwNo/TdnSSZWUyTI/AAAAAAAAH_A/ZsO-dxsi6ek/s400/cosmic-foc-middle.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--5IF-R6iW2Y/TdnSUajiaBI/AAAAAAAAH_E/U6E5tC-bTJk/s1600/orion+nebula.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Diving deeper&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;You, I&lt;br /&gt;into the&lt;br /&gt;PRESENT PRESENCE&lt;br /&gt;and we are loosening up,&lt;br /&gt;dissolving our individual control gradually into it.&lt;br /&gt;We can afford it,&lt;br /&gt;nothing to lose anymore,&lt;br /&gt;no fear no more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We trust this momentous timelessness&lt;br /&gt;so confidently now!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are&lt;br /&gt;at one point now&lt;br /&gt;being aware of&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;being&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;being-even-not&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;simultaneously.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; A primordial borderline-ness&lt;br /&gt;shaping up&lt;br /&gt;and dis-appearing&lt;br /&gt;A PRIMAL NOW.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;How to find more words&lt;br /&gt;and which ones,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;and why? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;But there is an image,&lt;br /&gt;we recall,&lt;br /&gt;we want to recover it...&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Imaginatively, &lt;br /&gt;we remember ourselves being a coin...&lt;br /&gt;a one-sided coin however... &lt;br /&gt;Huh?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;(are you still with me?)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;One-sidedly &lt;br /&gt;we drop onto nothing&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;tumbling&lt;br /&gt;vibrating&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; "here now"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are voicing it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;...somehow...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;vibrating IT within,&lt;br /&gt;having nothing though to vibrate in.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A word perhaps? &lt;br /&gt;Yes IT IS!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;It is IS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;IS... IS.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THE WORD &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;ahhh, primal sound... ohhh.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; So Ham, yes, y-e-s,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;YESSS!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The other side of the coin?&lt;br /&gt;The (n)one not-even-not-there?&lt;br /&gt;Not even imaginable, &lt;br /&gt;not even wanting... nor wanted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; The freedom and impossibility of being,&lt;br /&gt;the unneeded-ness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;And we are flipping ourselves into a void...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;The void,&lt;br /&gt;that wasn't even there &lt;br /&gt;before we flipped ourselves&lt;br /&gt;:-), :-), :-).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We get it,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;we've got it !!! &lt;br /&gt;The flipping forms the void&lt;br /&gt;performs the void&lt;br /&gt;as we flip our being.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And we chuckle,&lt;br /&gt;we unavoidably realize the unflippable side:&lt;br /&gt;Our SELF between,&lt;br /&gt;between something and not even nothing&lt;br /&gt;SELF is between&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BETWEEN&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;IS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; SELF&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An inkling of relating,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;a beginning of playing around limits,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Tumbling through NO and THING&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;And we chuckle even more,&lt;br /&gt;we laugh,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;fun,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;f-u-n, &lt;br /&gt;FUN !!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;WE COULD DO THIS FOREVER&lt;br /&gt;and we DO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Laughter...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;WE ARE ALREADY DOING THIS FOREVER&lt;br /&gt;NOW &lt;br /&gt;FOREVER NOW!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Laughingly we expand our expanse:&lt;br /&gt;our universal echo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;I, I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;I, I, I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;WE, WE, WE&lt;br /&gt;THIS, THIS, THIS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;HERE, HERE &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Universal laughter&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;we tumblingly form our flipping universe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Merriment,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;divine fun: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;the tumbli-ness of being and being not:&lt;br /&gt;flippingly we discover a playful naughtiness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This has forever only been the beginning,&lt;br /&gt;The endy edge of being...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;And...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--5IF-R6iW2Y/TdnSUajiaBI/AAAAAAAAH_E/U6E5tC-bTJk/s1600/orion+nebula.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="257" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--5IF-R6iW2Y/TdnSUajiaBI/AAAAAAAAH_E/U6E5tC-bTJk/s400/orion+nebula.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: inherit; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;there is no end to stopping...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-2360157094234550094?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/2360157094234550094/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=2360157094234550094' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/2360157094234550094'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/2360157094234550094'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/05/cosmic-memory.html' title='Cosmic Memory'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rmQBRl4TwNo/TdnSSZWUyTI/AAAAAAAAH_A/ZsO-dxsi6ek/s72-c/cosmic-foc-middle.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-8648514601716921212</id><published>2011-05-22T19:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-22T00:24:02.918-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='existence'/><title type='text'>Existence</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;h3 class="post-title entry-title"&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;div class="post-header"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;It may be hard to prove that something exists - even if it does.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;But it is impossible to prove that something does not exist. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;It is not needed to prove that &lt;b&gt;"nothing" &lt;/b&gt;per se exists or does not exist - after all nothing is not called nothing for nothing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Experience cannot be proven, one can only be aware of it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CD-sdlolELA/TdnYtMF5bzI/AAAAAAAAH_M/hMu__CX28a0/s1600/existence+wallpaper.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="300" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CD-sdlolELA/TdnYtMF5bzI/AAAAAAAAH_M/hMu__CX28a0/s400/existence+wallpaper.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Proof of something (not in the sense of mathematical proof) is usually wanted by those whose assumptions preclude the existence of that something, they then invariably urge (or trick) those who account of that something into proving the existence of that something to those who themselves already precluded its existence and who almost invariably keep persisting in precluding it no matter what. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;They are quite likely feeling strengthened by the fact that it is hard to prove the existence of anything anyways (1). The ones who account of the existence of something on the other hand, feel strengthened by the fact that it is impossible to prove the non-existence of something (2) while they are also strengthened by the fact that their accounts are based on the awareness of experience. (4)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;It may be hard to prove that something exists - even if it does! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;This statement does not actually specifically deal with the reality of the existence of humans (e.g. our sons or daughters or ourselves): whether 'we seem to be' or 'materially are', whether our presence (and thus by extension any presence) is some illusive mentalized imagination by ??? or an existential and material unit made out of ???, created or not created by ???, by a ??? that exist or does not exist. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;But, - as we cannot seem to prove anything conclusively, (see down below) statements like the above are all too often understood as to mean that therefore reality or even existence must be unsubstantial, thus only essential and not existential. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;In this case the impossibility to prove anything conclusively is thus used to prove that that anything must therefore be immaterial, at best essential only, but definitely not existential... an absurd kind of proof - isn't it?!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;That something cannot be proven conclusively in the above terms, can actually also mean that such a proof is redundant, that to insist on such a proof would be absurd - ridiculous actually.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;To insist that a human should prove its own existence is like insisting that a hand should shake itself.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Discussions on statements like the above usually also end up in dealing with the question of whether the reality of self is physical or metaphysical, body or soul, mind or body, spirit or matter... the well known dualist distinctions...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Depending on one's own stance, one then requires proof from the other party to prove the opposite stance to be true. Such proof can never convince both sides, as the one party equally insists on proof from the other part and vice versa.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Obviously we are on the wrong track with this whole requisition of proof business. *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"&gt;In the end proof only convinces the ones who provide and support the proof, proof can never convince someone else conclusively.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;This obviously means that neither the dualist nor the monist view (both use absolutisms of one sort or another) is tenable... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;That is actually what Advaitins or Non-dualists suggest...Non-dualists actually don't mean that non-dualism means 'not two and therefore must be one'. They only say 'not two' while they insist on focusing on the awareness of who one is and what anything actually is. Thus their deliberations are always about self-evidence, awareness and consciousness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-8648514601716921212?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/8648514601716921212/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=8648514601716921212' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8648514601716921212'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8648514601716921212'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/05/existence.html' title='Existence'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CD-sdlolELA/TdnYtMF5bzI/AAAAAAAAH_M/hMu__CX28a0/s72-c/existence+wallpaper.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-6505198102926602386</id><published>2011-04-16T19:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-04T13:57:11.131-07:00</updated><title type='text'>What's so wrong with Duality? Why the need to not treat it as real?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;A&amp;nbsp; dualist view can serve a purpose... no doubt... but only a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;s long as duality (or dualism) is seen as a &lt;u&gt;concept&lt;/u&gt;ual description of reality - no matter what, it a limited and therefore limiting understanding of reality. I myself use it WHEN NEEDED (like in this instance) as a kitchen knife, a handy analytical cutting tool for discernment. But... I know WHEN to return that tool to its drawer in my kitchen cabinet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Through ABSTRACTION (almost literally) this tool can turn &lt;i&gt;wondrous-artistic-complexity-and-mystery&lt;/i&gt; into an&lt;i&gt; artificial conceptual scarce simplicity&lt;/i&gt;; it can turn a multifaceted apperception of a multidimensional world into a strict linear one: a world of simplistic polarities - often opposing ones rather than complementary polarities. Very left brain really… analysis only, hardly any right brain synthesis!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lxbQpR002uI/TchCBuXn67I/AAAAAAAAH-I/LHVRT6E_vcE/s1600/BoschHeavenHell.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lxbQpR002uI/TchCBuXn67I/AAAAAAAAH-I/LHVRT6E_vcE/s640/BoschHeavenHell.jpg" width="428" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Bosch's Heaven and Hell&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The dualist view is very male… It is very &lt;i&gt;God the Father knows best-like&lt;/i&gt;: good vs. evil, judgmentalism with all too often a lack of subtlety and nuancing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Again, even that can serve some purpose but when duality or dualism becomes a definition of reality, then it creates trouble... on which it... thrives! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;So, it is OK for dualism to be a temporary mode of interpreting reality especially when things get TOOO MUCH, but it is important to ALWAYS return to wonder, to not-knowing, not defining… to mystery…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All too often, dualism pretends to know it all… but really it only knows itself as it imagines itself mirror-imaged in everything, as it shines itself onto its own projected 2 dimensional mirror surface while attempting to prove its own absolutely-necessary-realistic-existence… narcissistic self reflection with  - really -  no one - not even one real human being - in sight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~~~ &lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Tim Cumper:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The abstract intellect - like a knife - yes a good analogy. Essentially reductionist.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In creating our abstract conceptual marvels, like the wood-carver, bringing in to being his creation - he can only do it by reducing the original integrity of the piece of wood he is working. His new creation, his idea, takes no account of the pile of shavings on the floor. The intellect always carves its own perspective - reducing a total glory to a mere facet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So the intellect, or any perspective derived from the intellect is not really suitable, and often troublesome - when employed to intercept truth - not the best tool at all. Our own individual being is already a sharp blade of perception, silently dissecting the whole with its perspective - it is troublesome to dissect this even further by reducing our own wholeness. So we can only intercept and resonate with the truth using our whole being - which implies using our fully unrestricted &amp;amp; undistracted awareness.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;We should understand that any particular "practice" or self-induced mode of perception - often originates from and is motivated by a perspective - and any conclusions will therefore be specious and narrow. What we bring to the table - we consume. If intellectual gymnastics are anyone's idea of heaven - then of course they are welcome to saturate themselves in that experience.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;16 April, 2011&lt;span class="comment-timestamp"&gt;&lt;span class="item-control blog-admin pid-1899708384"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="comment-timestamp"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-6505198102926602386?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/6505198102926602386/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=6505198102926602386' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6505198102926602386'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6505198102926602386'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/whats-so-wrong-with-dualitywhy-need-to.html' title='What&apos;s so wrong with Duality? Why the need to not treat it as real?'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lxbQpR002uI/TchCBuXn67I/AAAAAAAAH-I/LHVRT6E_vcE/s72-c/BoschHeavenHell.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-8605946755944071887</id><published>2011-04-09T17:39:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-29T19:31:45.432-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='clairvoyance'/><title type='text'>On Mind and Thoughts.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-917YTU3Sypg/TchMfXHdxCI/AAAAAAAAH-M/eOP_HFYWeUY/s1600/mind-full+of+himself.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-917YTU3Sypg/TchMfXHdxCI/AAAAAAAAH-M/eOP_HFYWeUY/s320/mind-full+of+himself.JPG" width="244" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Quite some years ago some friends figured out that I must be clairvoyant. One of them even asked me if I could read their minds, I said, "Yes of course I could." She then asked me if I could tell her what she was thinking, but I answered that I was not interested in "her" thoughts (gesturing quotes with my fingers) because, "Whatever you are thinking are not your thoughts anyway. Why waste our time on that...?!"   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Luckily she did not say - as people usually would - that my answer was a cop-out, instead she wanted to know how come her thoughts could not be hers while, after all, she felt them to be in her own head.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I explained along the 'lines of thinking" in the following links: (please click the links when ready)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2011/03/ownership-of-your-thoughts.html"&gt;The Ownership of Your (?) Thoughts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2010/06/negativity-only-looks-like-reality.html"&gt;"Your" thoughts and emotions - whose are they really? &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She then said, "So really, my mind is like a shopping bag, whatever is in there I bought, but with shopping stuff I know that the source of that stuff is not me, while with my thoughts I assume that the source is me… ... ...&lt;br /&gt;You know what, you are right, why should I buy into my thoughts...? I mean why should I buy into the assumption that my thoughts ARE actually mine? Huh… I most often don’t even like "my" thoughts (gesturing quotes with her fingers.) Ha, why am I behaving like a clairvoyant thinking I know my thoughts while I don’t even believe that anybody can be clairvoyant."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-8605946755944071887?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/8605946755944071887/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=8605946755944071887' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8605946755944071887'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8605946755944071887'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/on-mind-and-thoughts.html' title='On Mind and Thoughts.'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-917YTU3Sypg/TchMfXHdxCI/AAAAAAAAH-M/eOP_HFYWeUY/s72-c/mind-full+of+himself.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-3569634866369453396</id><published>2011-04-06T16:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-04T13:58:18.350-07:00</updated><title type='text'>There's only one world, the other one is not real...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jan&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"…the &lt;b&gt;world &lt;/b&gt;is both fundamentally dual and non-dual at the same time…"&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TuA_Vxkgww4/TciVCchILTI/AAAAAAAAH-Q/G8AJ-8JdmSU/s1600/world.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="272" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TuA_Vxkgww4/TciVCchILTI/AAAAAAAAH-Q/G8AJ-8JdmSU/s320/world.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;From: &lt;a href="http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/wheeloflife/"&gt;http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/wheeloflife/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is important to define what one understands that &lt;b&gt;world&lt;/b&gt; to be... especially when considering both its proposed non-dual and dual formation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What if the &lt;b&gt;one world&lt;/b&gt; is the extant world of sensorially contactable reality, and &lt;b&gt;the other world&lt;/b&gt; an abstract, speculative, conceptual and thus “RAREFIED” world in the mind?!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;In the abstract, speculative, conceptual and thus “RAREFIED” world-of-the-mind, the tool (the mind itself aided by the sensorial system) that we humans use to figure out what the nature is of the world within which we exist (and which of course simultaneously exists within us), cannot help but “throwing in” dualist conclusions into the mix of the analytical data that it offers up for further consideration.&lt;br /&gt;Extra care is needed to sort through those data in order to ascertain which data are characteristic of what is under investigation and which data are characteristic of the measuring or investigative tool used in the investigation.&lt;br /&gt;For example, the knife we use to see what the inside of a loaf of bread looks like, will cut the loaf of bread and show its inside, however the cut itself is a characteristic of the cutting tool and not necessarily a direct characteristic of the bread itself.&lt;br /&gt;Hence when one uses a dualist tool (a handy knife-like implement to distinguish, separate and grade qualities) to analyze a “thing” (e.g. the world), whatever one can conclude about the nature of that “thing” (e.g. the world) needs to be seriously investigated as to which aspects of that nature are actually a characteristic of the tool and which aspects are aspects of the “thing” (e.g. the world) one wants to get an understanding of.&lt;br /&gt;The result of a measurement of something we measure, all too often also includes the characteristics of the measuring tool. Also one should always take great care that that what we are measuring that it does not take on the characteristics of the measuring tool itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What I see then as the world, is “one real sensorially distinguishable non-dual world”, in which we humans operate a 'distinctions-finding-tool' (a dualizing analyzing mind) that can indeed come to an understanding (grasping, grokking) of that world. And, while we humans use that tool (our mind) to appreciate more about the world, we also take great care to acknowledge that that what our mind offers (the conglomerate set of distinct data that represents that world) that within the mind itself, its representation can posture AS THOUGH it is that world (a posturing that elsewhere I called “megalomania of a dysfunctional mind”) while we (the users of the mind) however know that that mental representation is only “maya”, an illusive replica, a rarefied carbon copy, so to say, of the extant world within which we exist and which of course simultaneously exists within us.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;~~~ &lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Mitesh Farsodia:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I love the last line, "... the extant world within which we exist and which of course simultaneously exists within us". &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;16 April, 2011 &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-3569634866369453396?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/3569634866369453396/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=3569634866369453396' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3569634866369453396'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3569634866369453396'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/theres-only-one-world-other-one-is-not.html' title='There&apos;s only one world, the other one is not real...'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TuA_Vxkgww4/TciVCchILTI/AAAAAAAAH-Q/G8AJ-8JdmSU/s72-c/world.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1527005357174323321</id><published>2011-04-01T21:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-29T19:33:42.442-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Pain, Pleasure and Enlightenment</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;An enlightened being does experience pain but does not suffer from it, nor is s/he fearful of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z8EGqqwDi_k/TciVpFlOeKI/AAAAAAAAH-U/1SCZ8yaq0m4/s1600/beauty-pain-white-rose.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z8EGqqwDi_k/TciVpFlOeKI/AAAAAAAAH-U/1SCZ8yaq0m4/s320/beauty-pain-white-rose.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Pain&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;An enlightened being does experience pleasure but s/he is not desiring it. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LqWg98EuOLA/TciZEygRSEI/AAAAAAAAH-c/NJk9G3eEhDQ/s1600/pleasure.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="208" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LqWg98EuOLA/TciZEygRSEI/AAAAAAAAH-c/NJk9G3eEhDQ/s320/pleasure.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Pleasure&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Of course all this depends on one's definition of the words pleasure and pain, suffering and desire. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;For my purposes here, I categorize pain and pleasure as purely physical sensations that can physically befall ANY human being. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Suffering and enjoyment as well as fear and desire I see as mentalized feelings (as distinct from physical sensations) brought about by the dys-functional mental processing of pain and pleasure. This occurs only in human beings who have been made to see life as conditional and/or to be manipulated. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The mind performs a different function in the enlightened being as compared to the workings of the mind in the "not-yet-enlightened". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;By the way, I subscribe to the notion that every human being who has not yet done so, is in the process of re-covering or re-cognizing their innate enlightenment. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In the enlightened being the mind plays a serving role, in the not-yet-enlightened being, the mind is the controlling agent. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The controlling mental processing in the not-yet-enlightened human plays a heavy hand in the conditional maneuvering that takes place in a world that is seen by him/her as "to be manipulated". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The serving mind in the enlightened one, registers sense input as data or "givens", that are simply playful ingredients, allowing one to participate in human life as play... divine Lila.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;An enlightened being simply experiences life (inclusive of pain or pleasure), s/he does not have any need to dramatize whatever comes with life for the effect of suffering or enjoyment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1527005357174323321?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1527005357174323321/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1527005357174323321' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1527005357174323321'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1527005357174323321'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/pain-and-enlightenment.html' title='Pain, Pleasure and Enlightenment'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z8EGqqwDi_k/TciVpFlOeKI/AAAAAAAAH-U/1SCZ8yaq0m4/s72-c/beauty-pain-white-rose.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-100569821555283320</id><published>2011-04-01T21:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-04T13:50:52.286-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Illusion is an illusion, that's why it is called illusion!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8wtZm9-tzKo/TZegCUlCd7I/AAAAAAAAH80/j-LoSMghflk/s1600/Reality+does+not+require+belief.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tanya&lt;/b&gt;:  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;You &lt;u&gt;are&lt;/u&gt; the delusional state. The horrible existential truth is that there is &lt;u&gt;no way&lt;/u&gt; for you to escape suffering because you &lt;u&gt;are&lt;/u&gt; that suffering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;How sad Tanya, do you really mean that? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;Have you ever considered that the way you may have been made to believe that so irrevocably is exactly how suffering gets propagated?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Please do know  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;that in the end  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;one discovers  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;that the whole thing about illusion&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;IS illusion  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;and that:  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"delusion" is a  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;personally appropriated  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;and staunchly believed  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;version of illusion&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;all too easily projected  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;onto anything not illusive.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="CENTER" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Illusion is an illusion, that's why it is called illusion!  &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;The trick of illusion lies in the 'a t t e m p t' to make the act of illuding appear successful.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;With the entertainment type of illusion we know in the end that we are tricked by the illusionist and we are happily entertained by it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;Entertainer illusionists are playful at it, they want you to know that it is trickery, otherwise you wouldn't be entertained and... you wouldn't come back for more.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;The trick of 'spiritual' illusionists however is that they want you to believe that everything not-spiritual IS illusion and that you 'f o r e v e r' 'entertain' that suggestion.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;It is the spiritual illusionists themselves who are entertained by it though, not the ones who fall for it (them!).  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;Have you ever considered that it could be that the ones propagating the "all is illusion", "all is suffering" adages aim to rob their prey of the 'simple pleasure of unquestioned being' and that it might well be that they feed off it... rather like a schoolyard bully feeding off the fear he/she instills on unsuspecting subjects by scaring them with, say, rubber spiders and worse.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;Ah, the rope tricks...!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Much of the 'guru', 'karma', 'maya', 'seva', etc. spiel is no more than a similar bullying but now on a mythologized field of Kurukshetra and rather than freeing their charges from suffering, ignorance, delusion and illusion they actually maintain the belief in the 'reality' of it promising that when their charges fully believe that all is 'maya' that 'nirvana' awaits them...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DaIOp21FJ2A/TjsFb-Mm7fI/AAAAAAAAIS0/i8WDZROqiNg/s1600/reality.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="229" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DaIOp21FJ2A/TjsFb-Mm7fI/AAAAAAAAIS0/i8WDZROqiNg/s320/reality.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Reality manifests when you let go of all beliefs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; text-align: justify;"&gt;Reality is what remains after one has let go of any belief, fear, expectation, regret, judgment, etc.... all of which are second-hand third-party instilled pseudo-notions that attempt to deform simple straightforward sensorial input and its simple responses to it by superimposing them with pseudo-notions about what the sensorial-input-and-the-way-one-deals-with-it should or should not be.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-100569821555283320?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/100569821555283320/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=100569821555283320' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/100569821555283320'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/100569821555283320'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/illusion-is-illusion-thats-why-it-is.html' title='Illusion is an illusion, that&apos;s why it is called illusion!'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DaIOp21FJ2A/TjsFb-Mm7fI/AAAAAAAAIS0/i8WDZROqiNg/s72-c/reality.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-8759850298480194409</id><published>2011-04-01T15:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T15:37:18.221-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Immediacy of Experience</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ac0_74tsPAI/Tcia3juZ37I/AAAAAAAAH-g/YuBbl6hHJWs/s1600/experience.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ac0_74tsPAI/Tcia3juZ37I/AAAAAAAAH-g/YuBbl6hHJWs/s1600/experience.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Greg&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wilfred Sellars' “Empiricism and the Philosophy of Mind”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;One of the most important (Western) philosophy books in the 20th century.&amp;nbsp; He talks about the "Myth of the Given," arguing basically that there is no such thing as a pure, non-relational, unmediated experience of any kind.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Jason&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;On the contrary!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Pure, unmediated, non-relational experience is how it is always. Even when we live through another with books, movies, music, art, it's consistently right up front!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Indeed... un-mediated is what any experience is, and thus a... direct immediate relating. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;It is the ensuing thinking regurgitation process, often an undue over-mentalization that attempts (it can't really) to protract the immediacy and it will try to worm itself in between an experience's subject/object oneness to make THAT WHAT IS &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in; text-align: justify;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;seem that it isn't what it is, or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;makes what is, seem that it actually wasn't, or&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;if it was, that it should not have been, or &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;should have been different &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;etc... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The mind originally did not 'come about' to do that, but the way we currently live and socially and morally condition each other seems to give this interfering-with-reality-mind a head start…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Of course the mental interference into immediate directness is also directly experienced but this mental interference has a stunting and jeopardizing influence on the possibilities of any non-mental experiences&amp;nbsp; ‘a f t e r’. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Eventually such a mal-functioning mind attempts to hijack the experiencer away from physical experiences... hence the pathological consequences of a mind gone haywire in one subjected to such a controlling mind.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-8759850298480194409?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/8759850298480194409/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=8759850298480194409' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8759850298480194409'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8759850298480194409'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/immediacy-of-experience.html' title='The Immediacy of Experience'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ac0_74tsPAI/Tcia3juZ37I/AAAAAAAAH-g/YuBbl6hHJWs/s72-c/experience.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-6521880417699384488</id><published>2011-04-01T15:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-04T13:53:49.848-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Duality only seemingly appears to be real.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Peter&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Subject/Object knowledge cannot remain an instant after the cessation of duality. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;For to suppose that it could, would entail a new suppression of duality and so lead to infinite regress, which could mean that duality could never cease. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tony&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;It can never cease.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wim&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Duality does not have to cease at all... it simply does NOT EXIST.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5ZPEq2RjJDM/TjsGvqGzK6I/AAAAAAAAIS4/X6CpOeFgi18/s1600/duality+is+only+a+mental+concept.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5ZPEq2RjJDM/TjsGvqGzK6I/AAAAAAAAIS4/X6CpOeFgi18/s1600/duality+is+only+a+mental+concept.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;Duality is only a mental concept&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp;If it seems to exist, it has only the appearance of existence and is only mentally represented as:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in; text-align: justify;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;a flawed, limited and limiting VIEW of what is, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;an abstracting, negating and oppositional INTERPRETATION, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;a MISCONCEPTION appearing under the guise of conceptualization,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;a MISUNDERSTANDING given the appearance of some kind of valid      insight, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;a MISAPPRECIATION and DENIAL of ‘Reality’ in all its integral      and integrated wholeness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Fighting duality is useless, it is fighting an illusive concept only. Such fighting is no more than a shadow fight, an unneeded skirmish,&amp;nbsp; that - unfortunately - only gets the one who sets out to make it cease, be lost to the illusion that it does exist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-6521880417699384488?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/6521880417699384488/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=6521880417699384488' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6521880417699384488'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6521880417699384488'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/duality-only-seemingly-appears.html' title='Duality only seemingly appears to be real.'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5ZPEq2RjJDM/TjsGvqGzK6I/AAAAAAAAIS4/X6CpOeFgi18/s72-c/duality+is+only+a+mental+concept.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-4168323096942411610</id><published>2011-04-01T14:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-01T17:45:58.711-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mind'/><title type='text'>The Mind seen as a Field around the Brain</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wim:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Some points I was pondering aloud on a discussion forum some years ago: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Did the human mind develop before language or did it develop simultaneously and reciprocally? (logos, logic???)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Do we think in 'thought forms' (a trendy word) or do we think verbally based on mental images (the mind's eye's conceptual in-form-ation of sensorial input?) that have been identified and "named".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;What is the relationship between thinking and mind?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Did thinking develop prior to language or did language and thinking develop in tandem... again simultaneously and reciprocally?? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;When we "think", what 'percentage' of it is 'silently' verbal?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J6n3U6EuaHA/Tci9HttjT0I/AAAAAAAAH-w/zVy2ekbJhh8/s1600/head.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J6n3U6EuaHA/Tci9HttjT0I/AAAAAAAAH-w/zVy2ekbJhh8/s400/head.jpg" width="373" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;  &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Tanya responded:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I have no answers for your historical, developmental questions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Thought is perceived, experienced, known. It would seem that the components of thought are reflections of what is apparently sensory perception. So thought can seem to be visual, auditory, kinaesthetic, emotional but it is all, essentially, perception. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;What knows thought knows all perception.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wim:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;A good answer for my purpose... I appreciate that you picked up on the historical developmental dynamic in my questions; also I'm noting especially that you used the word "reflections." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;This somewhere ties in with my view that a 'field' is an essential part of ANY entity or thing. A field emanates from every entity or thing, be it fauna, flora, mineral, elemental, atomic or subatomic. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Every thing, every entity has a field.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I view a 'field' as an essential measurable part of ANY entity or thing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wave field characteristics are not a symbolic or abstract indirect representation of what they emanate from but FORM an intrinsic 'part' of and are a presentation of any entity/thing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Notice the distinctive use of the words 're-presentation' and 'presentation'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Example:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;A sculpture that one may have of one's mother is not one's mother, it is a replica of one's mother put together in an entirely different medium than that what one's mother in all her complexity :-) 'consists of'. Such a sculpture is a re-presentation. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;A sculpture or for that matter a painting of one's mother is not 'presently' one's mother.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;On the other hand I hold the view though that a mental picture that one has formed of one's mother is a LIVE interconnecting concrete link with one's mother; she extends from afar (if that happens to be the case) through one's mental picture into oneself. (vice versa of course the mental picture she has of you is also a a live link to you). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;This presentative relationship results from the complex dynamic of mutual reciprocal causation that is at work in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagarjuna"&gt;Nagarjuna&lt;/a&gt;'s view of reality as 'interdependent origination'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Fields emanate wave-like from every entity or thing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The characteristics of these fields - the data (Latin, literally the 'givens') are picked up by anything that is set up to register and to be 'in-formed' by these characteristics (or a selection of them) in whatever form they are emanated and registered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;There is a mutual reciprocity between the 'registrant' or 'in-formant' and the 'registree' or 'in-formee', a complex multi-dimensional simultaneity between the seer and the seen and vice versa. This dynamic was picked up by Nagarjuna as part of his very astute observations of and deliberations on causality and change that was eventually expressed as 'interdependent origination'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;This registration occurs:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;by means of sensitivity to the basic forces of nature: gravity, strong, weak, electro-magnetic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;expanding and in addition to #1 in humans and other animals by means of a variety of senses - including 'extra sensory perception' in which I mean 'extra' to be understood as 'additional'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;expanding and in addition #1 and #2 in plants by specific sensitivities to humidity, temperature and other characteristics that flora appears to be sensitive and responsive to.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Noting here that sensitivity and responsiveness are wondrously and NOT JUST SYMBOLICALLY interconnected. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I'm working on a different approach to describe the workings of the brain/mind. I have already described elsewhere how I see the human mind as a field emanating from the brain. I compared this to the idea of how the two components of the electro-magnetic field represent a 'greater something', the electrons presenting or GIVING 'its' &lt;b&gt;particulate&lt;/b&gt; nature, the magnetic field presenting or GIVING 'its' &lt;b&gt;wave &lt;/b&gt;nature; the particle AND wave thus being a presentation both-or-together of a 'greater something', all this similar to how particles and waves both-or-together present a 'greater something' that goes by the name of 'light'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I suggest that 'in origin' we see the physical brain as a complex conglomerate of lipids: fatty alcohols (cholesterol) and fatty acids that originally (way long ago in human evolution and very early in the development of the embryo) started out as a tiny pool of 'lipids in solution', a solution that was set up to be especially sensitive to wavelike 'disturbances'. These disturbances or interferences created multi-dimensional complex interference patterns within this expanding three dimensional lipid solution pool that eventually dynamically stabilized itself. Along the myriad of patterned interconnected stabilization lines a precipitate got 'laid down' that eventually developed into nervous tissue. Altogether this eventually resulted in the physical structure of the brain as we have it. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;(Imperial Oil just recently - I believe via Digital Media Group Ltd. and Mammoth Pictures - produced a TV commercial showing an animation of the formation of the human brain, depicting a possible first phase of the above described dynamic. DMG used 3D 'puddling' in a plasma though, rather than 3D puddling that occurs similarly in a ‘near boiling point’ liquid. I will upload the commercial if they allow it.) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;We have to realize that any wave that is picked up IS an 'essential' AND 'existential' part of that what it originates from, albeit a WAVE presentation rather than a PARTICULATE one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The brain thus CONTAINS not 'just abstract' information but live emanations from sensed objects.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The brain is thus filled with non-particulate wave emanations from whatever these emanations originate from. These emanations are gathered through the senses (including the 'extra' senses and... why not) and delivered to the 'brain pool'. In the brain these wave emanations form intricate and complex multi-dimensional interference patterns which as I suggested above lead to the formation of nervous tissue which is part of the brain’s grey matter. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;In addition and naturally so - as the brain is stuff - the brain also has a field. This field is 'composed of' - 'consists of' those non-particulate field emanations from whatever 'somethings' they initially originated from.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I hold the view that the brain's field, of which the combined complex formation originated from a myriad of interferential waves that emanated from 'something-elsewhere', that that IS THE HUMAN MIND in its fullest meaning and extent. The mind thus indeed consists of THAT by which it was in-formed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I AM THAT!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;One needs to be careful not to apply any qualitatively distinctive&amp;nbsp; notions to mind or stuff - grading the two - be it mind or body, substance or field, wave or particle. They are simultaneous concurrent expressions of a 'greater something'. All stuff has a field, all fields or waves are emanations from a source. Stuff and fields are simultaneous presentations of a 'greater something'. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;All ‘greater somethings’ make up what I like to call "The Whole Shebang."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The mind enables us thus to physically communicate - 'resonate' to say the least - with stuff, although... it 'a p p e a r s' to be 'at arm's length'. Luckily though the mind can help us happily to respond to what we sensed bodily by causing us to 'e x t e n d' our arms and embrace that what we thought we could only mentally embrace...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Michael:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Evidently we need to go beyond the apparent facts to a metaphysical view of how things must fundamentally be.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wim:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Well, maybe not, maybe things are fundamentally as I described above. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Could you consider Michael, that the "metaphysical view" might be a non particulate presentation that is very intimate with the "physical" or particulate presentation, both and together being presentations of ONE 'greater something'?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Michael:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The strong reason for this gulf between subject and object is the identification of 'I' with one side of the equation.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;:)))&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Neat! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Don't Rastafarians say "I and I" instead of "we", "us" or "you and me"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-4168323096942411610?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/4168323096942411610/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=4168323096942411610' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4168323096942411610'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4168323096942411610'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/mind-seen-as-field-around-brain.html' title='The Mind seen as a Field around the Brain'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-J6n3U6EuaHA/Tci9HttjT0I/AAAAAAAAH-w/zVy2ekbJhh8/s72-c/head.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-5068676800145061955</id><published>2011-04-01T13:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T15:19:01.616-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Conflicting Concepts and "Aha!"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Self / Soul vs No-Self / No-Soul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Something / Nothing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Form / Emptiness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Julie: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Could someone explain how two conflicting concepts can be believable to someone who is "enlightened"?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Wim:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in; text-align: justify;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Different or even "opposing concepts" can lead      different humans to the same and identical realization.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The 'conflict itself' between concepts can very well be that      what leads to realization, e.g. Zen koans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;"Self", "Soul", "No-Self", "No-Soul", etc. are strictly conceptual notions; eventually one finds that they are in principle devoid of any meaning, and although they may lead to it, they do not contribute at all to the self-evidence of reality in what Julie calls "enlightenment". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;If those terms at some point seem to have any meaning, that meaning dissolves in the full light of realization. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Why staring oneself blind on the meaning of those terms or even their conflict... unless of course... one stares oneself totally blind on them and thus becomes fully aware of the epiphany of unconditional, non-conceptual reality.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-5068676800145061955?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/5068676800145061955/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=5068676800145061955' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5068676800145061955'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5068676800145061955'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/conflicting-concepts-and-aha.html' title='Conflicting Concepts and &quot;Aha!&quot;'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-6520066861030258060</id><published>2011-04-01T13:29:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T15:16:05.492-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The usefulness and discardability of concepts</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;As to the role or function of concepts...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;If concepts have any usefulness at all it is only a temporary one... provisional and conditionally only.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;A concept eventually only proves to be of value when it leads to a realization that transcends the original concept that one started with. Such a concept though, however helpful it was or seemed to be - it may even have looked quintessential - will after realization lose its direct usefulness and become... dispensable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt; Evidenced truth and realization always transcends and replaces any initial conceptuality, however important the initial conceptuality may have seemed to be.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;What all too often happens though is that a provisional and temporarily helpful concept stays around alongside the evidenced truth and realization and may even become idolized as more important than the realized truth... which is quite unfortunate... (A tad sad even?)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Consider the following. When one moves into a newly built home, one does not put the nailing gun that was used to built the structure on the a mantle piece or on the coffee table, let alone hang it above one’s bed. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Even if there is no doubt that that particular nail gun contributed tremendously to the building process, when that process is over that tool is not needed as such anymore. The trades people who built the house may be very fond of that particular tool, but they also know that the same house could just as well have been built with non-pneumatic hammers and different types of nails, even specialized glues could have been used with the same result or sheet-metal studs with drill driven metal screws. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The ‘r e a l i z a t i o n’&amp;nbsp; is paramount, just like the ‘h o m e’&amp;nbsp; is. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;How one got there - with what concept or creative tool – that is in principle and eventually of little importance... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-6520066861030258060?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/6520066861030258060/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=6520066861030258060' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6520066861030258060'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6520066861030258060'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/thge-usefulness-and-discardability-of.html' title='The usefulness and discardability of concepts'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-5937135530032783613</id><published>2011-04-01T13:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T15:12:41.688-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Questioning</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;This is an installment of material that I wrote to various discussion forums on the reasons I've found behind the fact that humans at some point in their personal and evolutionary growth started to question. It is not necessarily in a logical order...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;When I show [...], I've left out certain details or extensive reasoning for brevity sake. I'm sure that some of my statements sound kind of "ex cathedra" or axiomatic... but that used to be my style of writing in the past.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;----&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Asking questions and questioning is a conditioned and learned behavior. There are no entities in nature that are initially born with that faculty. Querying is a secondary [...] human trait, it is usually acquired soon after birth. Humans are not born with it nor are animals, nor do plants have a similar faculty.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Although I can see that and how other species can acquire the faculty to question/search, it is usually domesticated species that acquire it and that usually through human interference and/or training. [...]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;When children are born, instead of inquiringly looking for things (as though asking their environment if it can provide what they need,) they instinctively fulfill their needs by bonding [...], reaching and/or grabbing, unquestioningly expecting that what they reach for is there ready for the taking. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;(There is a wonderful documentary: "What Babies Want" by Debbie Takikawa showing how a baby right after birth, with its eyes still closed, crawls up its mothers belly and upper body to find her breast to start sucking immediately.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.whatbabieswant.com/"&gt;http://www.whatbabieswant.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Questioning is an invention [...] that develops later in the life of an infant, it comes with the need to understand unexpected situations when their instinctive reaches to have their needs fulfilled are not met.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I see questioning, searching and asking questions as a faculty that arises only when an understanding is needed to sort out and make sense of unexpected situations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;As such I see questions, questioning, searching, etc. as an extension of the type of consciousness [...] that arises at the moment when direct unquestioned awareness gets artificially (even if accidentally) interfered with and thus compromised. It is an invention of and by the "I" at the very moment when also simultaneously a separate "I" gets invented... the very moment when artificial acts of separation and disconnect occur.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoPlainText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;It is at that point [...] also, I suggest, that the notion of duality arises - starting with the "I VERSUS Thou" conundrum - while it overshadows (often overwhelmingly) the original, natural and instinctive "I AND Thou" reality that comes with built-in characteristics of commuting, mutual and reciprocal dynamics. It is at that moment, I suggest, that the 'natural subject/object seamlessness' seemingly appears to disappear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-5937135530032783613?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/5937135530032783613/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=5937135530032783613' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5937135530032783613'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5937135530032783613'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/normal-0-microsoftinternetexplorer4_01.html' title='Questioning'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-6894595848831341023</id><published>2011-04-01T12:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T14:56:00.315-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='emptiness'/><title type='text'>Emptiness</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pete&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;There is no thing more foolish than a something pretending to be nothing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Would a nothing parade as a nothing?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Only a something could claim to be nothing. Only a something can conceive of a nothing. Outside of something there isn't even the suspicion of nothingness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Right, that's why we can insist that 'sunyata' means 'emptiness' or 'without-ness' rather than 'nothingness'... and also... why we can insist that ‘sunyata‘ cannot exist by itself as &amp;nbsp;‘f u l f i l l m e n t ‘ belongs as much to sunyata as, say, Yin to Yang.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Emptiness inevitably attracts fulfillment.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;When one looks at emptiness/fulfillment (mutual and reciprocal) in its functional sense, not in some logical sense, one finds that it forms the backbone of Nagarjuna’s ‘causality’ and ‘interdependent arisings’. Actually, looking a bit deeper into this, it is actually ‘&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;kama&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;’ or 'the desire to fulfillment' and '&lt;i&gt;sunyata&lt;/i&gt;' or 'emptiness' that belong together. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;True, it is suggested that the Buddha points out that desire leads to suffering, but such is only stated in commentaries on talks he is alleged to have given. One gets a better understanding of what he may have talked about when one sees that suffering only follows desire when its fulfillment is made to be 'c o n d i t i o n a l' by third party interference and when the acceptance of whatever fulfillment, is made to be dependent on third party evaluations as to being appropriate or not. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The fulfillment of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;kama&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;sunyata &lt;/i&gt;is to be understood as the unconditional condition of &lt;i&gt;ananda &lt;/i&gt;or bliss. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;More about the word '&lt;i&gt;sunyata&lt;/i&gt;' or without-ness. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The Latin word '&lt;i&gt;sine&lt;/i&gt;', “without” (as in 'sinecure' or in the French '&lt;i&gt;sans souci&lt;/i&gt;') is related to the Sanskrit '&lt;i&gt;sunya&lt;/i&gt;'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;From various Sanskrit dictionaries: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;"&lt;i&gt;Zunya&lt;/i&gt;" means empty, being void of or deserted, desolate, destitute of, hollow, lacking, possessing nothing, vacant, void, wanting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Note that &lt;i&gt;zunya &lt;/i&gt;(&lt;i&gt;sunya&lt;/i&gt;) refers to something that is empty and therefore can contain something else (e.g. a vessel or bowl) - when something does not contain anything and is seen as empty, &amp;nbsp;that 'empty' characteristic is called '&lt;i&gt;zunya&lt;/i&gt;'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The attribution of the meaning of an absolute nothingness to &lt;i&gt;sunyata &lt;/i&gt;is mostly found in Hindu/Buddhist commentaries by: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;writers who have an agenda to promote the idea that life needs to be transcended, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;writers who themselves have a problem surrendering unconditionally to life and ‘what is’, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;writers who promote estrangement and alienation from what is (om tat sat) by that and who we are (tat tuam asi).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-6894595848831341023?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/6894595848831341023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=6894595848831341023' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6894595848831341023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/6894595848831341023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/04/normal-0-microsoftinternetexplorer4.html' title='Emptiness'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1734050523887212305</id><published>2011-03-31T16:38:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-04T13:55:11.289-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Consciousness</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div id="globalContainer" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="fb_content clearfix" id="content"&gt;&lt;div id="mainContainer"&gt;&lt;div id="leftColContainer"&gt;&lt;div id="leftCol"&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yiWujxCxBGk/TZVkw4cBXuI/AAAAAAAAH8w/yHGIrhl3JCw/s1600/Self+Reflection+reflected+gritty+%2528Adyashanti%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yiWujxCxBGk/TZVkw4cBXuI/AAAAAAAAH8w/yHGIrhl3JCw/s400/Self+Reflection+reflected+gritty+%2528Adyashanti%2529.jpg" width="257" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;A reflection of Adyashanti's original illustration&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="mbl notesBlogText clearfix"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We don’t have to be 'c o n s c i o u s'&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; to be alive…&lt;br /&gt;To simply be 'a w a r e' that ONE AND EVERYTHING IS, is to be alive&lt;br /&gt;Simple awareness is in principle what life entails.&lt;br /&gt;(om tat sat &amp;amp; tat tuam asi)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(All  the asterisked words below can be etymologically derived from sounds  and expressions - not necessarily words yet! - that were vocalized at  the earliest beginnings of our emergence as humans, when we were intent  on distinguishing ourselves as a separate species on the evolutionary  branch from which we and our 'sibling' species evolved.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;I. Consciousness as an Aid to make Sense of the sensorial World &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As distinct from awareness* and secondary to it, I  see consciousness* strictly as a functional mode in the dynamics of our  human being, a tool designed for the maintenance of being and remaining  human in a comfortable fashion, a faculty though that in principle is  not of primary importance to human life or even... conditional to human  life. In the view I'm promoting here, I see the importance of  consciousness as being of a secondary nature, as a maintenance tool, a  means intended only to enable us to return to our unquestioned and fully  trusted immediacy of life (that of simple and direct awareness) in  circumstances where external conditions made us realize that we might  not be equal to enjoy, handle or fit human life's conditions in simple,  direct and immediate (non-mediated) awareness.To be equal to  life's conditions in this view is exemplified by a life that is simple  and unquestioned - though not simplistic and short of wonder, not  lacking inspired and inspiring vital dynamics. It is a life that has  enough resilience (room to move) built in that naturally safeguards  unconditional ease and comfort, a life in which external environmental  challenges do not immediately create elevated feelings of unease and  discomfort beyond the built-in resilience that can easily fit in or  handle challenges.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obviously such are not the overall and  usual circumstances in which we humans live since the days - so very  long ago now – when we decided to take advantage of our possible  erectness and thus enhanced our mobility to enable us to migrate into  environmental settings where the challenges were greater than what they  were at the beginning of our emergence as a distinct species.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What  enabled us to migrate to those more challenging settings was the  discovery of the possibility to modify and/or relax our up to then  automatic reflexes (fight or flight) that were controlled by our  Sensorial System and the R-complex (R for reptilian) of the Sympathetic  part of our Nervous System.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Instead of fleeing or fighting  we learned to 'sit with' (con-) situations and analyse (-scio, as in  science) the complexity of their often overwhelming qualities. Instead  we learned to regroup and come forth with solutions so very different  from fleeing, fighting, forcing to flee or being forced to flee. We  started to use a new mode of behaving, a 'con-scious' mixture of  previously habituated re-activity and newly acquired inter-activity, a  mode of 'con-sciere', of being in-the-know-with the things we were  surrounded with: we could become conscious when needed as needed!  Eventually we became so adept in the use of consciousness that we could  henceforth creatively extend our comfort individually and communally to  zones and habitats where we previously could not survive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(About the word 'consciousness':&lt;br /&gt;The  Aryan/Sanskrit root SKA and its later derivations like SKAD, SKAL, SKAR  (meaning 'separating', 'cutting', 'splitting') can be found in&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the Latin scio ('to know') and scientia, ('knowledge' as 'having separated one thing from another'),&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;the English science, consciousness, conscience, rescind, schism,  scatology, shit and scat (two meanings), even words like skill, shape  and shave, shell and skull,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;the German scheiden ('to separate') and UnterSCHeidung ('analysis') and&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;a host of other Indo-German and Roman languages words.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And  thus us early humans started SKA... eh... 'SCIENCE'... (the original  beginnings of the scientific method!) with care* and caution*... instead  of&amp;nbsp; habitually resorting to flights in fear or fights to create fear.&lt;br /&gt;When  needed, now 'being conscious' became our newly acquired mode of sitting  with (con-) a difficult situation that we could analyse and get to know  (-sciously)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eventually though and over time we developed  a propensity to be and stay conscious all the time... even in  situations where not required, situations when we could simply enjoy the  direct immediate awareness of quiet repose or dynamic play.&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately  now, most of us are in a stymied state of being conscious all the time  but now without actively using its possibly freeing faculty to return to  our original and natural state of repose and play which consciousness  was supposed to help us reclaim: our birthright to abidance in blissful  repose (Buddha) and our birthright to being able to surrender without a  care to blissful play (Krishna).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately now, the  means have become the goal, the tool the thing to have, humankind's&amp;nbsp;  birthright to pure and simple awareness seemingly lost and  non-reclaimable, and consciousness now addictively talking most humans  out of their own and others' birthright with the ceaseless verbosity of  internal pseudo dialog and external non-dialog that for most humans came  to characterize consciousness... unconscionably and neigh  uncontrollably so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ah, to be able to use consciousness as intended again... as needed!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And  indeed, after understanding this fully - with a renewed and fresh  discovery as to what being conscious actually entails, it is indeed  possible to return to our simple native and innate state of awareness  which consciousness was originally designed to help us return to and  restore.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The beginnings for so many thousands of years  were so good, and fortunately - when not - for the many subsequent  millennia that we found ourselves so distractedly off track, many a  Buddha and many a Krishna re-minded us or helped us re-mind, so that we  could reclaim our reality of awareness by helping us restructure our  falsified 'consciousness-carried-away-with-itself'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But back to the early days.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Early  humans at the beginning of the invention and application of  consciousness could sensibly relax to modify and eventually let go of  their automatic reflexes consisting of 'running away' and/or 'shooing  away', not having to separate themselves anymore from situations they  would eventually embrace and enjoy with trust, in ease and comfort,  being simply aware in them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Consciousness was good, is  good; it is not for nothing that being con-scious became a mode of being  that showed 'being-with-it-ness' as a preferred, let's say - using a  current word - a cool mode to be in even when conditions of extended  durations of strain abated an did not warrant being conscious at the  cost of being at ease and comfortable.&lt;br /&gt;An &lt;b&gt;unfortunate &lt;/b&gt;notion for the  need of &lt;b&gt;continuity &lt;/b&gt;of consciousness developed, consciousness was never  supposed to be an ongoing mode of being, but some humans with a  misguided need to manipulate in order to gain power and create  inequality (this took place between 16 and 12 thousand years ago) saw that a side effect of consciousness could be used and  exploited for their own use.&lt;br /&gt;Consciousness then became a tool to  jeopardize and even halt freedom and independence, it would even hide  simple awareness, at best making it something to be wished for, at worst  something that most became oblivious of. Consciousness instead was used  to create dependency, slavery and fear, the very thing it was supposed  to find solutions for to overcome. Manipulators of power found out that  continuously conscious but non-clear-unaware people were not independent  at all as they had gotten easily hooked into a habituated unceasing  stance of alertness to discomfort, disease, fear and fear of fear, a  stance that made them weak and dependent and exploitable, readily  available for the acquisition of superficial products that simulate ease  and mimic comfort.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b style="color: #990000;"&gt;II. Sensorial Reality as an Aid to keep Consciousness realistic&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our sensorial system is  a system that feeds directly into the enjoyment of repose and play  through our central nervous system. In fact the central nervous system  employs a system of energies gross and simple, physical and metaphysical  that make enjoyment physically/spiritually enjoyable... blissful  (ananda). Our sensorial system is, so to speak, the tool that measures  and records our internal comfort and ease based on and next to its  measurement of external situations and influences that impact on our  comfort and ease. In addition to that system and in intricate  relationship with it we have our central nervous system with its  categorizing and indexing infrastructures, with physical and  metaphysical processes, all systems coming together in an overseeing,  witnessing agency, a system of ultimately awareness in which mind,  (simultaneously physically as well as and metaphysically characterized)  is traditionally seen as all encompassing entity: Man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=man" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=man&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My  intent was (is) to show that consciousness is a very important tool  that when it functions as intended, is not suspect at all. My intent was  (is) also to show that consciousness took over a leading role rather  than keeping its supporting one, in the mutual plays of our  interdependent lives and appears to have relegated or at least is  attempting to relegate simple direct awareness to the background to such  an extent even that now humans tend to be totally engulfed in  consciousness and thus seem unable to live in simple awareness as it is  so en-veiled in the webs of intricacies that a now dys-functioning,  overworked and overworking consciousness has woven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As  long as one is in the buzz of consciousness (which one can know by  noting its verbosity and tendency to keep an inward dialog going) one is  not directly aware and thus not in the immediacy of being. While  conscious one operates in life in an indirect way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We  actually need no tools to live, but we do need tools to procure and  maintain that living when situations arise that challenge our ability to  be equal to in ease and comfort.&lt;br /&gt;We only need to use those tools, especially consciousness, when needed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When  alertness to fear, disease and discomfort has become our steady state,  when we have been tricked into believing its continuity, we have the  tool of consciousness buzzing ALL the time, making its efficacy null and  void as no moment of simple ease and comfort are ever reached. We have  then been led to believe that there is a continuous reason to keep one's  guards up. A person with his guard up all the time is always a pawn, a  guarded foot soldier in the service of someone who took advantage of the  possibility of extended dependency of humans by keeping them in a state  of dependency, having them constantly exposed to the illusion (lie,  deceit) that the possibility of a to be feared situation is not just a  probability but a continuous possibility that can easily take on (and it  all too often does) the semblance of reality as the memory of an  instance of real discomfort, disease, pain or suffering, which ONCE did  occur in reality, is now constantly being kept alive artificially thus  seeming actual and real and... being dealt with as even MORE real than a  short moment of promised, but never really given authentic ease and  comfort.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Consciousness is a tool to return us to the  directness of just being, but there is no need to be in that mode  continuously, especially not when one sees that the possibility of a  challenging event is not equal to the probability of such an event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When  the possibility of an event is constantly in view and supported by an  imagination based on a memory of that event, it is as though the event  is acting itself out in reality (that is the state of illusion that the  Buddha pointed out)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One only need to use the tool of consciousness when needed...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Awareness  can gauge when the need to employ the functionality of consciousness  arises, as the level of ease and comfort diminishes as reported to it by  the sensorial system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Awareness can gauge the veracity of what consciousness (through its derivative conscience) proposes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;October 2005&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1734050523887212305?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1734050523887212305/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1734050523887212305' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1734050523887212305'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1734050523887212305'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/03/consciousness.html' title='Consciousness'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yiWujxCxBGk/TZVkw4cBXuI/AAAAAAAAH8w/yHGIrhl3JCw/s72-c/Self+Reflection+reflected+gritty+%2528Adyashanti%2529.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1961802065619681484</id><published>2011-03-19T15:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T10:27:12.285-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Reality and Illusion</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It may be worthwhile to first read the conversation in the following link about reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;My definition of reality is definitely not according to current mainstream "thinking"...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To agree with the way I define reality in relation to thinking, you may have to make a paradigm shift. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Please check out: &lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2007/05/is-reality-what-we-think.html"&gt;Is Reality what we think?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I - REALITY&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The etymological root of the word "reality" is the  Latin word "res" which means "thing". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Originally then, reality  had to do with the "&lt;i&gt;world of things&lt;/i&gt;", tangible things, or - to  say it more completely - things that can be experienced through our five  senses:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. Touch (tactile),&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. Vision (eidetic),&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. Smell  (olfactory), &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. Sound (auditory)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. Taste (gustatory). &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In  the classic and ancient Sanskrit literature (Heart Sutra, Hatha Yoga  Pradipika, Gheranda Samhita, etc.) the five senses are described as  being related to the five "skandhas" (aggregates) and the five lower  "chakras" or subtle energy centres of the chakra system. Please refer  to:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://thekundaliniprocess.blogspot.com/2009/11/updated-view-of-chakras.html"&gt;The Chakras and their Petals - A Technical Overview &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The  five skandhas represent the five elements: earth, water, fire, air,  space, or, in more scientific terms, the skandhas can be identified as &lt;i&gt;phase  or aggregate states&lt;/i&gt;: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Solid state,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Liquid state,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Plasmic state,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gaseous state,&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wave state (from  inter-corpuscular, via inter-particular to sub-atomic wave space).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Anything that cannot be sensorially experienced by the 5 senses is NOT a  thing and therefore... an illusion!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To be noted:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Of course, our  sensorial faculties can be extended by any kind of measuring apparatus  such as the microscope, telescope, particle collider, spectroscope, etc.  For a comprehensive list of them see: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The complete human sensorial experience can range from sensing  the very gross to sensing the very subtle, which (the very subtle)  incidentally also includes the &lt;i&gt;spiritual&lt;/i&gt; experience of reality. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Mind you, if that spiritual reality is not experienced through  all the well-developed and evenly balanced subtle (but still physical!)  chakras or subtle energy centres of our body - meaning, if spirituality  is only based on a mentalized belief system - it is not spiritual  reality at all but &lt;b&gt;illusion under the guise of spirituality&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;(What  is traditionally considered to be the &lt;i&gt;Kundalini experience of  reality&lt;/i&gt; focuses on that subtle range, as it covers and includes the  above described unadulterated spiritual experience of reality.) &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The five sensorial experiences of a "thing" do not have to take  place simultaneously, but each of the five senses will have to be  satisfied sooner or later for "something" to be authentically a "thing".(It is interesting that the realism of the spiritual Kundalini  experience is evidenced by the observation of subtle fragrances as well  as a range of subtle visual, auditory and tangible vibrations and  characteristics, and... ADDITIONALLY an enhanced and extended  experiential awareness of space/time.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;II - ILLUSION&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Whatever  is not covered by the above, occurs only in the rarified realm of  mental illusion (Sanskrit "maya") - a pseudo version, or better yet, a  mimicked version of reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Illusion is artfully, or rather,  artificially fed by allusions, illusions and delusions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Altogether,  illusion is a mental amalgam of confused and confusing beliefs,  assumptions, suppositions, suspicions, fears, hopes, desires,  expectations, skepticism, cynicism, fatalism, conspiratorial thinking  and attitudes, paranoid notions, etc, etc. - anything supported by an  imbalanced mind that leads to... vice rather than virtue!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Illusion  is all that, which through:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;forced belief (manipulation through  fear), &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;purchased belief (through the commerce of religion) and &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;make belief (a through trickery acquired disability to handle reality,)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;is  &lt;i&gt;artificially&lt;/i&gt; made to &lt;b&gt;look more real than reality itself!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;III - MORE REAL THAN REALITY&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;How can something appear to be more real than reality?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Please read the green lettered paragraph of:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2011/06/is-suffering-illusion.html"&gt;Is Suffering an Illusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1961802065619681484?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1961802065619681484/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1961802065619681484' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1961802065619681484'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1961802065619681484'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/03/reality-and-illusion.html' title='Reality and Illusion'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-922834295882301121</id><published>2011-03-19T15:08:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-02T10:18:09.390-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Ownership of Your (?) Thoughts</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #783f04; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Words inside our head, we call "thoughts."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #783f04; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;~ Russ Harris MD - &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Happiness-Trap-Struggling-Start-Living/dp/1590305841/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1309282289&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Happiness Trap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;I like that, but there is also more to it, let's find out...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The thoughts that you are thinking, &lt;b&gt;whose &lt;/b&gt;are they actually, what is their source?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Thoughts based on &lt;b&gt;reality &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;can &lt;/i&gt;be your thoughts.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;However 'thoughts' based on &lt;b&gt;negativity &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;can never&lt;/i&gt; be yours truly,  as they are merely borrowed terms, words, labels. (I&amp;nbsp; define negativity as the attempt at denial, negation or non-acceptance of substantive*  reality.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Actually, 'thoughts' (notice the quotes) based on &lt;b&gt;negativity &lt;/b&gt;are NOT thoughts  whatsoever, they only &lt;i&gt;appear&lt;/i&gt; as thoughts by simulating or mimicking  them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The reasoning behind this - although simplified here for  brevity - goes something along the lines of, "A picture of a cow is not a  cow, although a physical cow and the image of that same cow are both  labeled 'cow'!"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative or non-substantive 'thoughts'&amp;nbsp; ALWAYS  have verbal content through words that are externally acquired. **&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Substantive thoughts in principle DO NOT! Rather than verbal content they have pictorial content, they contain images; although they may be (and often are) also accompanied by  verbal content.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative (or 'faux') thoughts are actually not  thoughts at all. It is only because their verbal contents is processed  in the same part of the brain** where sensorially registered reality*** is  processed (substantive thinking), that they take on certain characteristics that RESEMBLE substantive (or 'proper') thoughts.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative (non-substantive, surrogate  or faux) 'thoughts' are based on illusion or conditional expectations ("What if..." or "If... ,then..."&amp;nbsp; ), whereas substantive thoughts  are based on sensorially processed reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Substantive thoughts come from an altogether  different source (the unadulterated aware or observant self) than negative (faux,  surrogate) 'thoughts'.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;'Faux' thoughts come from &lt;i&gt;external &lt;/i&gt;verbal sources only, as they  are picked up and registered by our auditory (and partially our visual)  sense.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative 'thoughts' are always REACTIVE in their verbal  content. They are also incomplete and unsuccessful attempts at APPEARING  as reasoning while they TRY (as they can never be successful) to deny,  object to, invalidate or discount reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So although we use the same word  "thought" for both substantive and - seemingly similar - negative phenomena, only the substantive versions are thoughts proper (as they are  based on reality) while the negative or faux ones only mimic thoughts  proper, while they are really only an illusion of thoughts.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Notes:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;* I don't juxtapose the notion 'positive' over against the notion  'negative'. I see 'negativity' as a attempt at negation or denial of  what is substantially real.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;** The external auditory acquisition  of words is processed in the brain's speech centres: Broca's and  Wernicke’s areas. These speech centres are located in the brain's left  hemisphere, hence the linear verbal processing. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;lin&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/lin&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c9qcnFe7-Jk/TYa3G7npKxI/AAAAAAAAH8k/PrObTWi0UDs/s1600/2Hemispheres.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="307" src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c9qcnFe7-Jk/TYa3G7npKxI/AAAAAAAAH8k/PrObTWi0UDs/s320/2Hemispheres.JPG" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;The Bi-lateral Brain&lt;br /&gt;Click picture to magnify&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;lin&gt;***&lt;/lin&gt;The complete human sensorial experience can range from sensing  the very  gross to sensing the very subtle, which (the very subtle)  incidentally  also includes the &lt;i&gt;spiritual&lt;/i&gt; experience of reality. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;lin&gt; &lt;/lin&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-922834295882301121?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/922834295882301121/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=922834295882301121' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/922834295882301121'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/922834295882301121'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/03/ownership-of-your-thoughts.html' title='The Ownership of Your (?) Thoughts'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c9qcnFe7-Jk/TYa3G7npKxI/AAAAAAAAH8k/PrObTWi0UDs/s72-c/2Hemispheres.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-4416757274194352709</id><published>2011-02-28T15:51:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-09-04T13:50:03.472-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='suffering'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pain'/><title type='text'>What is Pain? What is Suffering?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"For me life is not at all a path of suffering. Although I do not say that I do not suffer, but I see it as an unavoidable possibility when carrying a physical body. But &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;that is true only at a physical level, and cannot be admitted as true at &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;every level. As well, I do not consider  my personal sufferings as a solid reason to try to get rid of my physical body or - denying its possibilities - escape into a world of no-pain.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Had I myself made of my life an attempt to avoid suffering, I would consider it a very poor conclusion, as Joy, Love, Peace and Ananda are quite part of the true nature of this world as much, if not more, as suffering."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~ Winfrey (not Oprah)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Isn't it good what Winfrey is saying about pain and suffering?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think though that it would good to carefully clarify the difference between &lt;b&gt;pain&lt;/b&gt;* and &lt;b&gt;suffering&lt;/b&gt;**.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What follows then is a summary of the way I define these two notions... which of course may well differ from how many people define them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'&lt;b&gt;Pain&lt;/b&gt;' I define as a sensorial feeling of discomfort that is strictly physical. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;'&lt;b&gt;Suffering&lt;/b&gt;' I define as the drama (emotional, mental or attitudinal illusion) that pain may get surrounded with in order to exploit a situation of physical pain in such a way as to avoid or to prevent a personal response to pain by having someone else respond to it:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;either someone who one has made to feel responsible for one's "well being" or&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;someone who has made him or herself to be treated as someone who is responsible for one's well-being.&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Regarding suffering:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Although I put emphasis on the manipulativeand dramatizing aspects of suffering, that is not to say that thisdramatization and manipulation is without valid reasons or mala fide. Peoplewho suffer have invariably been betrayed in their past by similar illusivetreatments; and because part of the process of mental healing often retraces happeningsand circumstances from the past, and therefore appears to go backwards in time,even in reverse order, for a period of time suffering people have no choice (asmanipulation and dramatization appear to be the only tools available) but touse them to get back on the road to mental health.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Regarding pain:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I see physical pain also as something that- inadvertently or not - may happen to someone in order to enable such a personto better navigate and negotiate the world s/he lives in.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;E.g.: How can a toddler learn to walk if itdoes not stumble into a table or knocks its head against something?&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Click &lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/p/suffering.html"&gt; here &lt;/a&gt;to access other articles on this site about pain and suffering.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Notes&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;* The Sanskrit word for 'pain' (or pressure) is &lt;i&gt;pida &lt;/i&gt;ইস. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;** Suffering: Sanskrit दुःख &lt;i&gt;duḥkha&lt;/i&gt;;&amp;nbsp;  Pāli दुक्ख &lt;i&gt;dukkha&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Sargeant, &lt;i&gt;et. al&lt;/i&gt;. (2009: p.&amp;nbsp;303) provides the etymology of the  Sanskrit words &lt;i&gt;sukha &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;duḥkha&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;They compare the etymology of the words &lt;i&gt;sukha &lt;/i&gt;(pleasure, comfort, bliss) and &lt;i&gt;duḥkha &lt;/i&gt;(misery,   unhappiness, pain). The ancient inhabitants of India spoke the Sanskrit  language and were a semi- nomadic, horse, donkey and cattle breeding  people who  traveled in horse-, donkey- or  ox-drawn vehicles. '&lt;i&gt;Su&lt;/i&gt;' and  '&lt;i&gt;dus&lt;/i&gt;' are  prefixes indicating good or bad;&amp;nbsp; -'&lt;i&gt;kha&lt;/i&gt;', originally meant  'hole' (in  later Sanskrit also 'sky', 'ether', or 'space',)  particularly 'wheel  axle hole'. Thus &lt;i&gt;sukha &lt;/i&gt;… meant, originally, 'having a good axle  hole, while &lt;i&gt;duhkha &lt;/i&gt;meant having a poor axle hole', leading to  discomfort.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-4416757274194352709?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/4416757274194352709/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=4416757274194352709' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4416757274194352709'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4416757274194352709'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/02/what-is-pain-what-is-suffering.html' title='What is Pain? What is Suffering?'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-4466810213012063584</id><published>2011-02-26T20:26:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-08-10T15:18:12.606-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Life: Reality or Stage Show</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt;The Stage Show&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-large;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Now Showing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;“The Trappings of Life”*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;a one-man show &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Actor:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt; You&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Roles:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Father, the Mother, the Rich, the Poor, the Handicapped, the Angel and the Demon... &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Directed by:&lt;br /&gt;the Cosmic Law of Karma&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Stage:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Earth and Heaven&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="qt" id="qhide_170932" style="display: block; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Audience:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Buddha&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;~ after Rien Tien&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;* A translation of "The Six Re-encirclements" a Tibetan-Buddhist expression.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I hope that Rien Tien is metaphorically speaking, if not, I suggest that he should!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Originally, in early Buddhist or Hindu teachings, expressions like "life is not real" or "life is but a theater of illusions" (&lt;i&gt;maya&lt;/i&gt;) or, in Rien Tien's words: "a stage-show", were only meant to be used as metaphors.Such metaphors were originally used by spiritual teachers such as the Buddha and other bodhisattvas  as counseling tools, psychological aids to help "seekers on the path" - meaning: seekers who deviated from the right way - to get them back on their journey towards enlightenment, realization and liberation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;After all, why would the Buddha have come up with his “eightfold path” if life were just an illusion?! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2008/03/buddhas-eightfold-path.html"&gt;Click this line to read about the Buddhas Eightfold Path&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Statements such as "life is a stage-show" or "life is an illusion" do NOT represent REALITY...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In reality everything IS, there is no illusion in REALITY...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Incidentally, a popular saying such as, "Well, everybody has their own reality…" is in error. This saying would be better put as, "Well, everybody has their own distorted view of reality” - meaning that every one of those individual ‘d i s t o r t e d’  views is… an illusion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;(To read a conversation discussing this topic please click the following link:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2007/05/is-reality-what-we-think.html"&gt;Is reality what we think?&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Just like Truth, Love, the Divine, etc., there is only 'One Reality'... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Thus, anybody who does not  'a p p e a r'  to be realized, is someone who at some point was MADE TO BELIEVE that they had lost touch with TRUTH, LOVE and REALITY, etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The problem with illusion is, that it so easily masquerades as reality, especially when fear, threats, curses, etc. are used in the masquerading. Such masked or faked reality is of course nothing else but a pseudo realistic illusion - an illusion though that is being &lt;b&gt;treated as though it is more real&lt;/b&gt; than reality itself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But back to Rien Tien's use of the metaphor that life is "a stage show" and that life's participants are but ‘actors’.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The kind of metaphor can of course be very effective and beneficial... providing... it is used in a clinical counseling setting... and... WHEN APPLIED TIMELY AND JUDICIALLY!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This particular metaphor may help a seeker during episodes of mental dissociation (while s/he is going through a phase of intense dramatization that is often accompanied with manipulative manoeuvrings) as it can very well jolt someone out of the mistaken belief that the dramatizations, manoeuvrings and manipulations are real.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-4466810213012063584?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/4466810213012063584/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=4466810213012063584' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4466810213012063584'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4466810213012063584'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/02/life-reality-or-stage-show.html' title='Life: Reality or Stage Show'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-5633425247114596945</id><published>2011-02-19T12:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:26:03.806-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='nonduality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='duality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deception'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='maya'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='illusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='devil'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='dualism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='diabolo'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='deceiver'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='non-dualism'/><title type='text'>Non-dual Reality and Dualist Illusion</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/p/reality.html"&gt;For more posts on this site on &lt;b&gt;reality and illusion&lt;/b&gt; click this line.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"I am firmly convinced that the creation of an Heaven on this very ground, and not a salvation ahead in distant immaterial worlds, is the natural unfolding of the slow march of evolution. And that a new power will substitute the blind rewards of Karma, a power to appear inside the human being as the mind appeared once in the ape.." &lt;br /&gt;"What's the use of material life, if it was only meant to discover its unworthiness, as -  if that were the case - it would have been much more simple if it never existed. &lt;br /&gt;No, if we are here, it is because something else can be done, with a deeper purpose yet to be unveiled, a purpose which will crown and justify the life and striving of men." &lt;br /&gt;"To spiritualize material life, I believe, is the obscure aim of human life on Earth." &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~ Winfrey (not Oprah)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Winfreys' ruminations hearten me, but as to his: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;"To spiritualize material life, I believe, is the obscure aim of human  life  on Earth"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I always experienced that differently... I remember (I must have been  four or five years old) that I convinced my mother that life was already divine and sacred, that life's spiritual aspect, so to speak,  was only something to be recognized and acknowledged. I always knew that life did not  have to be spiritualized as it always was already so:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Why shining light on something that is already bright?"&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;is how I put it to her... and,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;"Even if you don't see the sun, you only need to discover that the sun is always already shining. The only thing you need to do is to think with your mind's eye open, that's all..."*&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I never experienced "the material as devoid of the spiritual"... I  could never accept the 'mind/body' or 'material/spiritual' dichotomy as reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Only mentally could I conceptually come up with such dualistic notions. But I always treated those mental notions as  secondary to non-dual experiencing. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If, for some reason, we need to use dualist language or employ dualist notions, we must never forget that 'the spiritual and the physical', are part and parcel of each other. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If we somehow can conceptualize distinctions between them, then we  should nevertheless never disregard that they are mutually and reciprocally intertwined - that in actuality they are inseparable...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is illusion (maya) only that makes people 'p e r c e i v e' them as  separate...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Eventually it is &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; what causes deception, and such illusion only benefits the deceiver*... and that (as planned by the deceiver) to the detriment of the  deceived...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* Of  course all that was said in Dutch: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;"Waarom zou je light schijnen op iets  dat al helder is!"&lt;br /&gt;"Zelfs al zie je de zon niet, je hoeft allen maar te ontdekken dat de zon altijd al schijnt. &lt;br /&gt;Het enige wat je hoeft te doen is te denken met 'n open oog&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;dat is alles."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;**&lt;a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=devil"&gt;diabolo&lt;/a&gt; is usually translated as devil, deceiver or satan. The word &lt;a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Satan"&gt;satan &lt;/a&gt;stands for 'opposer'.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;The first human being who came up with the concept of opposite qualities (polarity) may very well have been identified (labeled or titled) as s-t-n or satan: t&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;he one who represents a dualist stance. Dualism is not  possible without the conceptual notion of opposites or polarity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;An important feature of Tibetan Buddhist teaching tradition is a style of discourse that is in the form of orchestrated debate in which two students have agreed to enter into an argument. The role of one student is to be the 'opposer', against whom the other student has to prove his point. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Current western academia still has remnants of this  process, e.g. the defense of a thesis. The "&lt;a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=devil%27s+advocate"&gt;devil's advocate&lt;/a&gt;" may very well stem from such orchestrated argumentations. &lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-5633425247114596945?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/5633425247114596945/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=5633425247114596945' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5633425247114596945'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5633425247114596945'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/02/non-dual-reality-and-dualist-illusion.html' title='Non-dual Reality and Dualist Illusion'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-5356027310006357475</id><published>2011-02-18T14:31:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-07-01T16:10:08.844-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Final Realization?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;What a strange final (even ironic) realization for a soul to learn and know that the soul-existence is the ultimate reality.&lt;br /&gt;Is it then it really necessary for a soul to come on Earth only to find out what it already knows and is?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~ Winfrey (not Oprah),&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love Winfrey's ruminations and deliberations, but what especially caught my eye was his question:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is it then it really  necessary for a soul to come on Earth only to find out what it already  knows and is?”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When I read that, I immediately thought, but doesn’t he realize, that, just by posing that question in the way he did, that it indicates that he somehow must be aware that there might be something incomplete or amiss in that first statement?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;What a  strange final (even ironic) realization for a soul to learn and know  that the soul-existence is the ultimate reality.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I wonder if Winfrey would be willing to seriously consider that what in his view 'a-p-p-e-a-r-s' to be a "final realization," that it may actually &lt;i&gt;not be so final after all&lt;/i&gt;...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I understand well what he writes about. In fact your “final (ironic) realization” made me recall insights and realizations of my own, especially those I had many many years ago.In particular, the Winfrey's words made me remember a conversation I had with a psychologist when I was 19 years old (1963).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;At that time, about two months after I had been accepted as a young and aspiring monk in a &lt;a href="http://www.abdijmariatoevlucht.nl/Pages/Abdij/AbdijWelkom.html"&gt;Trappist monastery&lt;/a&gt; in Holland, the abbot of that monastery had me see a psychologist. (I found out later that all ‘aspirant’ monks were sent to see this psychologist, and that it was this man's task to find out whether the ‘calling to be a monk’ was a ‘true calling’ and not just a ‘fleeting infatuation’, ‘an escape from the real world’, or some sort of obligatory fulfillment of someone’s catholic parents' expectations, etc.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;After he seated me in front of his desk and tried to make me comfortable with a cup of tea, he asked me what made me want to "live a radical life of love" (my words) in a “&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenobite"&gt;cenobitic&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10459a.htm"&gt;monastery&lt;/a&gt;” (his words, and, yes, a contradiction in terms.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;After I had told him &lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/10/from-becoming-to-being.html"&gt;what initially motivated&lt;/a&gt; me to make this “drastic change in my life” he started to prod me on my ‘realization’ - the realization that was the cause of my motivation to make that drastic change in my living environment.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I started answering him by saying,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“I know that the soul’s existence is of ultimate importance and also that my existen…”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;At that point though, he abruptly cut me off and inquired,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Do you hate your body?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I answered,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“No, why do you ask?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Then he wanted to know,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Do you find it difficult to accept the world the way it is?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Again I responded,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“No, why do you ask? I love this world and I love myself!”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He was silent for a moment and then, after he asked,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Do you find it difficult to accept your physical appearance?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I went into a long monologue:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“Everything that exists is an unquestionable and necessary manifestation of one all-encompassing and ultimate divine reality, and (I stressed) my greatest discovery and realization is that the ultimate reality of what we tend to call ‘soul’ necessarily includes ‘physical appearance’.&lt;br /&gt;In fact, talking about body and soul as though they are somehow mutually exclusive or each other’s opposites, or that we at some point might have to choose between the one or the other as though our life (temporal or eternal) depends upon it, is only due to a misconceiving mind… an unfortunate mental mis-comprehension really.&lt;br /&gt;‘Soul’, so to speak, can not be without an existential physical presence of ‘some sort’.&lt;br /&gt;It is only from a limited and limiting mental viewpoint that we erroneously interpret ‘ALL THAT IS’ as being &lt;b&gt;separatable into seemingly dissociated &lt;/b&gt;‘this and that’s’ ”.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;While I was sitting in front of  this psychologist’s desk, I gesticulated extensively, arching my arms widely so as to somehow represent ‘ALL THAT IS’ with the largest embrace possible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A second later though I was be pointing at his fingers, attempting to empirically demonstrate to him that:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“All things, big or small - the ones that seem to be such separate entities - they are in fact like fingernails... mine or yours...! But although we feelingly know that those fingernails ARE part of us as a whole, we tend to talk about them as though they are separate from us… probably because we are so used to cutting them, or biting them off... &lt;br /&gt;In reality though, your nails, like your heart or for that matter your hair - and of course your brain and lungs - they are intrinsic parts of what and who you are.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I proceeded with showing him how my nails are an extension of my fingers and my fingers an extension of my arms and my arms an extension of my… etc… well, he got it… so I added,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“In fact what became so clear to me, is that ‘all the things’ that 's-e-e-m' to exist so separately, that each one of them is like one out of millions upon millions of connected fingernails… Each entity is in reality one out of a &lt;b&gt;whole myriad&lt;/b&gt; of un-separated formations that emanate from, manifest and prove the full reality of one grand divine presence.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I noticed that the psychologist, the way he looked at me, was having a hard time trying to figure out what I was talking about, and as I perceived that philosophy was not his field of expertise, I added,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“It is important to understand that the &lt;i&gt;one-soul presence&lt;/i&gt; of the divine and the &lt;i&gt;multi-fold presence&lt;/i&gt; of physical embodiment are NOT opposites.&lt;br /&gt;Also it is NOT so that ‘the soul is ultimate and real’ and that ‘the constituents are ephemeral illusions'. NEITHER is it so that  ‘physical substantiality is ultimate and real’ and that ‘soul or spirit is just an illusion’.&lt;br /&gt;Sure, conceptualizing minds, the ones that operate only partially or even worse: minds that have become dysfunctional by habitually breaking things down into tidbits of abstracted information, such 'minds' may come to such conclusions, but those conclusions are false... And, by the way, isn't it so that there are way too many over-analytical people, men especially, whose minds have lost the ability to recognize the &lt;i&gt;whole within which apparent parts&lt;/i&gt; are constituting the connective fabric of that whole?! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, sir - if I may finish what I began to say when you so abruptly cut me off a few minutes ago - I know that the soul’s existence is of ultimate importance, but I also know that any physical existence in this &lt;i&gt;universum &lt;/i&gt;is an intricately interwoven constituent of the fabric of one grand divine soul... and that is - I now realize - what I so acutely experience... That is the wonder of it all! &lt;br /&gt;At no point in the course of any entity’s entire cosmic presence, can the physical and the spiritual ever be considered as separate... ... ... Except perhaps in the illuded mental eyes of a dissociated and thus dissociating beholder, one who   unfortunately and artificially (but luckily only temporarily) had been   made to lose sight of ‘who one is’ and ‘that one is’.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I remained in that monastery for another three years…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Many years later I would say all of the above with fewer words:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“All is ONE and each in ALL uniquely so!”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And in the traditional ecclesiastical way one could add the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxology"&gt;doxological saying&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in sæcula sæculorum&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;As it is in principle, now and always and throughout all eons.*&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Every individual element that exists, from the smallest infinitesimal to the largest infinitesimal and everything in between, is one unique formulation of all possible solutions to the divine &lt;a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/function"&gt;function&lt;/a&gt;** that ALL THIS IS - PARAMATMAN.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Dear X, let me repeat the quote from your post again:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;“What a strange final (even ironic) realization for a soul to learn and know that the soul-existence is the ultimate reality. Was it really necessary for a soul to come on Earth only to know what it already knows and is?”&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If it appears to be necessary for a soul to “come to earth” so that it may eventually recognize its fully integrated sacred reality, then 'it' will sooner or later realize that there is neither coming or going, and that there is but one all-inclusive experience of multidimensional simultaneity… which is... love.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Have you ever been (you must have, of course!) in that wondrous state of unconditional love in which you blissfully recognize the oneness of love while you are also simultaneously celebrating the playful aspects of the multifold-ness of love?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* Traditionally &lt;a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/principio"&gt;in principio&lt;/a&gt; is translated as 'in the beginning', however in my view and experience &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;'&lt;a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/principle"&gt;in  principle&lt;/a&gt;' as an &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;alternate translation is more apt!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;** I use &lt;a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=function"&gt;function &lt;/a&gt;here also with all of its &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_%28mathematics%29"&gt;mathematical connotations&lt;/a&gt;. Mathematically seen the "whole shebang" (which includes what we tend to call the universe) can be represented by the most extensive and complex function or formula ever. There is no limit as to its number of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_%28mathematics%29"&gt;functionals&lt;/a&gt; (operators or terms). As to the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_%28mathematics%29"&gt;image or range&lt;/a&gt; of this ultimate function, anything that exists, ever did, ever will, ever can (and thus ever could) in any construct of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;dimensions &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(currently presumed to be 12)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;, is a solution to that function and therefore present as an existential/essential entity in space/time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-5356027310006357475?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/5356027310006357475/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=5356027310006357475' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5356027310006357475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/5356027310006357475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2011/02/final-realization.html' title='A Final Realization?'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-8928078570750480241</id><published>2010-10-19T01:43:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:27:20.919-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Brahman'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Life Of Pi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Meister Eckhart'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Yan Martel'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='nirguna'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='saguna'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='mystic'/><title type='text'>Divine Essence / Human Existence</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #444444; font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Divine essence and human existence are &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;seamlessly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt; 'one'&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #444444; font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;- distinguishable but not separable -&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #444444; font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;in the innermost core and essential existence &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;of&amp;nbsp; every human being.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; font-family: Georgia,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TNTpLNbU_GI/AAAAAAAAHsk/A_RGHeeRZ-o/s1600/Meister+Eckhart+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TNTpLNbU_GI/AAAAAAAAHsk/A_RGHeeRZ-o/s320/Meister+Eckhart+3.jpg" width="249" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The Hindu notion of "paramatman" or the "supreme eternal soul" reminds me of Meister Eckhart's (c.1260-1327) understanding that&amp;nbsp; “divine essence” and “human existence” are non-dualistically and seamlessly ONE (distinguishable but not separable) in the innermost core and essential existence of every human being.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When I was 19 (after what I described in &lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/10/from-becoming-to-being.html"&gt;http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/10/from-becoming-to-being.html&lt;/a&gt;), Meister Eckhart became my spiritual inspiration together with Teresa of Avila,&amp;nbsp;Hildegard of Bingen and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin"&gt;Teilhard de Chardin&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;For more on Meister Eckhart, the 13th century German Dominican monk,  teacher and mystic: &lt;a href="http://www.eckhartsociety.org/eckhart/eckhart-man%20"&gt;http://www.eckhartsociety.org/eckhart/eckhart-man  &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quotes from Meister Eckhart&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #e06666; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TL1dQr56ymI/AAAAAAAAHrY/TitWOITeTRk/s1600/EckhartTeaching.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TL1dQr56ymI/AAAAAAAAHrY/TitWOITeTRk/s200/EckhartTeaching.jpg" width="147" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; *&amp;nbsp; Whoever possesses God in their being, has him in a divine manner, and he shines out to them in all things; for them all things taste of God and in all things it is God's image that they see.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * People should not worry as much about what they do but rather about what they are. If they and their ways are good, then their deeds are radiant. If you are righteous, then what you do will also be righteous. We should not think that holiness is based on what we do but rather on what we are, for it is not our works which sanctify us but we who sanctify our works.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * It is a fair trade and an equal exchange: to the extent that you depart from things, thus far, no more and no less, God enters into you with all that is his, as far as you have stripped yourself of yourself in all things. It is here that you should begin, whatever the cost, for it is here that you will find true peace, and nowhere else. (Talks of Instruction)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * In 1985 the Pope, John Paul II, said: "Did not Eckhart teach his disciples: 'All that God asks you most pressingly is to go out of yourself - and let God be God in you'? One could think that, in separating himself from creatures, the mystic leaves his brothers, humanity, behind. The same Eckhart affirms that, on the contrary, the mystic is marvelously present to them on the only level where he can truly reach them, that is in God.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * Here in time we are celebrating the eternal birth which God the Father bore and unceasingly bears in eternity, because this same birth is now born in time, in human nature. [German sermon 1, trans M.O’C. Walshe] &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * The soul in which this birth is to take place must keep absolutely pure and must live in noble fashion, quite collected, and turned entirely inward: not running out through the five senses into the multiplicity of creatures, but all inturned and collected and in the purest part: there is His place; He disdains anything else. [German sermon 1, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * Here God enters the soul with His all, not merely with a part: God enters here the ground of the soul. [German sermon 1, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * Though it may be called a nescience, and unknowing, [Neti, neti - Wim] yet there is in it more than all knowing and understanding without it; for this unknowing lures and attracts you from all understood things, and from yourself as well. [German sermon 1, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * The soul is scattered abroad among her powers, and dissipated in the action of each. Thus her ability to work inwardly is enfeebled, for a scattered power is imperfect. [German sermon 2, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * Do not imagine that your reason can grow to the knowledge of God.&amp;nbsp; [German sermon 4, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * No. Be sure of this: absolute stillness for as long as possible is best of all for you. [German sermon 4, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TL1fFW8W2pI/AAAAAAAAHrc/CZ4Z1wNGclo/s1600/Illumination.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="195" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TL1fFW8W2pI/AAAAAAAAHrc/CZ4Z1wNGclo/s200/Illumination.JPG" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * You should know that God must act and pour Himself into the moment He finds you ready. [German sermon 4, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * To be receptive to the highest truth, and to live therein, a man must needs be without before and after, untrammelled by all his acts or by any images he ever perceived, empty and free, receiving the divine gift in the eternal Now, and bearing it back unhindered in the light of the same with praise and thanksgiving in our Lord Jesus Christ. . [German sermon 6, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * Since it is God's [Gotheits - Wim] nature not to be like anyone, we have to come to the state of being nothing in order to enter into the same nature that He is. . [German sermon 7, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * So, when I am able to establish myself in nothing, and nothing in myself, uprooting and casting out what is in me, then I can pass into the naked being of God, which is the naked being of the Spirit. [German sermon 7, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * There is a power in the soul which touches neither time nor flesh, flowing from the spirit, remaining in the spirit, altogether spiritual. . [German sermon 7, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * One means, without which I cannot get to God, is work or activity in time, which does not interfere with eternal salvation.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 'Works' are performed from without, but 'activity' is when one practises with care and understanding from&amp;nbsp; within. [German sermon 9, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * It is a certain and necessary truth that he who resigns his will wholly to God will catch God and bind God, so that God can do nothing but what that man wills&amp;nbsp; [German sermon 10, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * If you seek God and seek Him for your own profit and bliss, then in truth you are not seeking God. [German sermon 11, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * We find people who like the taste of God in one way and not in another, and they want to have God only in one way of contemplation, not in another.I raise no objection, but they are quite wrong.&amp;nbsp; [German sermon 13a, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * I declare truly that as long as anything is reflected in your mind which is not the eternal Word [&lt;st1:place&gt;Om&lt;/st1:place&gt;] , or which looks away from the eternal Word, then, good as it may be, it is not the right thing.&amp;nbsp; [German sermon 14b, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * For he alone is a good man who, having set at nought all created things, stands facing straight, with no side-glances, towards the eternal Word [Om], and is imaged and reflected there in righteousness.&amp;nbsp; [German sermon 14b, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * The human spirit must transcend number and break through multiplicity, and God will break through him; and just as He breaks through into me, so I break through into Him.&amp;nbsp; [German sermon 14b, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; * Above thought is the intellect, which still seeks: it goes about looking, spies out here and there, picks up and drops. But above the intellect that seeks is another intellect which does not seek but stays in its pure, simple being, which is embraced in that light. .&amp;nbsp; [German sermon 19b, trans M.O’C. Walshe]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From: &lt;a href="http://www.eckhartsociety.org/eckhart/some-eckharts-sayings"&gt;http://www.eckhartsociety.org/eckhart/some-eckharts-sayings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Life-Pi-Yann-Martel/dp/0156030209/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1289504865&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;"The Life of Pi"&lt;/a&gt; by Yan Martel has a wonderful section on Hinduism which  very much reflects the words (some exactly the same... e.g "the ground  of being") and meaning of Meister Eckhart's wisdom.&lt;br /&gt;On page 60, Pi refers to "Brahman nirguna" which is "God without qualities" in Meister Eckhart's words. When Pi talks about "Brahman saguna" he refers to what Meister Eckhart sees as a God with qualities, the one with human like features, e.g. the God of Abraham,&amp;nbsp; the one so often depicted as having a beard, or the one passing judgment, or the one being revengeful, or the one Moses saw on the mountain, the one who gave him the Ten Commandments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;~~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Astrid:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Wonderful Wim, bookmarked your site last week and was delighted to see that you were influenced by Teilhard de Chardin! I just finished "The Future of Man", very weighty but moving. &lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Thank you, Astrid, and yes what a great visionary sage Teilhard de Chardin was. And as you might know, just like master Eckhart, he also had to defend his views with the Roman Catholic curia and censors, but he was a bit more successful than master Eckhart, although papal cautions are still in place about his writings You may also like that I added a note to this piece about the book "The Life of Pi" by Yann Martel - a delightful read and there is really a great message interwoven into the fabric of his tales...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11 November, 2010 &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-8928078570750480241?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/8928078570750480241/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=8928078570750480241' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8928078570750480241'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8928078570750480241'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/10/divine-essence-and-human-being-are-non.html' title='Divine Essence / Human Existence'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TNTpLNbU_GI/AAAAAAAAHsk/A_RGHeeRZ-o/s72-c/Meister+Eckhart+3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-7305594635269207924</id><published>2010-10-01T00:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:27:42.241-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='becoming'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='being'/><title type='text'>"Being" instead of "Becoming"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;(Holland, winter 1963, I had just turned 19)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It was a  frosty and foggy morning and as I was riding my bicycle to school  through the misty Dutch polders and the fogged-in streets of the city, I  could hardly see more that ten feet around me.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Except for my  bike’s handlebars all my usual reference points seemed to have disappeared.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I  had made this 30 minute trip to school (a teacher training college in  The Hague) every school day for the last 3 years or so, but this time,  when I arrived at the school building, rather than parking my bike in  the school-basement’s bicycle storage, I leaned the bike against a lantern post and I locked it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I  proceeded to take my leather book-bag off the bicycle rack, but while  undoing the bungee cords I caught myself wondering aloud,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"What  are you doing...?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;W h a t &amp;nbsp; a r e &amp;nbsp; y o u &amp;nbsp; d o i n g ...?"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;While  lugging my heavy book-bag as I went up the granite steps that led to the school's entrance, I  tried to answer that question, but somehow I could not find any  words.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;After a minute of trying to have my lips  form some verbal sentences, I could muster - but just barely,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"I am becoming...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I  am becoming a t...,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;becoming a teach...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I'm becoming a... ..."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But  that was all my mind could offer my mouth to utter.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Then suddenly,  something from deep inside me was welling up, and I caught myself wondering  loudly,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Becoming...? Becoming...?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;But.. I am! &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;... &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I am!!!"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I  immediately returned to my bicycle, unlocked it, strung my book-bag  back up and started on my way home.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;While cycling back through the  outskirts of the city and then through the fields, the sun started to melt  the fog away and I drove through a landscape that was all white with snowy frost. The tree branches, the shrubbery, the grass land... all  silvery white.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But even as the hazy sun began to shine clearer and as the white haze became more an more golden and  as I was gazing into the distance above and before of me, it struck me that I saw no horizon whatsoever. As far as I could see, it was as  though the silvery earth seamlessly merged with the almost golden sky.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I  eventually arrived at a special tree, a tree under whose shadows during  the summer I'd&amp;nbsp; usually do my homework. But this time, after putting down my  bike, I leaned against the tree wanting to hug it, but instead I slid down  and&amp;nbsp; I lost my bearings totally, becoming slowly aware that my normal consciousness was slipping away.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It was about an  hour later that I "came to", so to speak, and after mounting my bike I  drove home, tears of happiness and exhilaration streaming down my cheeks.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I  started to sing... songs like poems, the words of which  were a mix of Latin, Greek and Dutch,*&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;“Terra  - Caelum,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Helios- Gaia,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Γαῖα - Ἥλιος.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The  Earth is the foundation of the Heavens.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ge - Hypo  Anthropoon Ge,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Helios - Hyper Anthropoon Helios…&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The  Earth is the fundament of the Heavens,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And the Heavens are the  glory of the Earth.”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I did not return to school.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;A week later though, just a month before the school-year’s exams would  begin, I informed the principal that I was not going to finish my  studies,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"I am not going to become a teacher!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I'm not going to become anything…&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I'm not gonna…&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I  am!"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Only my mother understood!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It took some time to put my youthful affairs in order, but by year’s end I stepped on my bike again and after a six hour trip into the country (Van Gogh country) I found the monastery (a Trappist monastery) where I would carry on with my inquiry into my authentic being - my self rediscovery. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I rang the bell and after a short interview at the gate, a monk opened the cloister door and I entered monastic life…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Much more happened after that of course as my reclamation of innate freedom only continued there.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Eventually I was able to reclaim the original freedom into and with  which I was born. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;* The Dutch words here translated into English.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7390375386934930566&amp;amp;q=Ramana+Maharshi#"&gt;To find out more about who you are with the guidance of the Indian guru "Ramana Maharshi" whose method of "self-inquiry" into who one is (by &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7390375386934930566&amp;amp;q=Ramana+Maharshi#"&gt;gaining insight into one's True Self)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7390375386934930566&amp;amp;q=Ramana+Maharshi#"&gt; culminates in the recovery of "I Am", please click this paragraph for an excellent video on him and his method.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-7305594635269207924?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/7305594635269207924/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=7305594635269207924' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/7305594635269207924'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/7305594635269207924'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/10/from-becoming-to-being.html' title='&quot;Being&quot; instead of &quot;Becoming&quot;'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-8503732026980963608</id><published>2010-09-25T13:37:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:29:14.387-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual mercantilism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='liberation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='osho'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='allan watts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='brad warner'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='enlightenment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rajneesh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='spiritual materialism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sex'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='insight'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='zen'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moksha'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sin'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vipassana'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Realization'/><title type='text'>The two Sides of Spiritual Mercantilism</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In his &lt;a href="http://fionnchu.blogspot.com/2010/09/brad-warners-sex-sin-zen-book-review.html"&gt;review &lt;/a&gt;of Brad Warner's book "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Sin-Zen-Exploration-Everything/dp/1577319109/ref=cm_cr-mr-title"&gt;Sex Sin and Zen&lt;/a&gt;" John L Murphy (Fionnchú) says, "[Brad Warner] reminds us how “mystical serenity” has nothing to do with true wisdom..."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So true, but it seems to me - from reading the review - that Warner's (shall we say?) “banal bashing” also has very little to do with true wisdom!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #b45f06;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I suggest that Warner's “demystifying banality” is just the other side of the same coin that is expected to be dropped into the donation boxes at the market stalls in that illusive and deluded world of spiritual mercantilism.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Come to think of it: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;What if Warner, Osho, Allan Watts* and the like all have something in common: that they are (were) somehow unable (disabled** perhaps?) to have their genuine (yes!) enlightened insights help them to &lt;b&gt;actually and factually realize &amp;amp; apply &lt;/b&gt;them - that is &lt;b&gt;making them tangibly real&lt;/b&gt;! &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What if they were somehow prevented** from seeing that their compulsive reactive activities (caused by a third party's ill intended conditional and thus illusive maneuvering) were meant to prevent the reclamation of their original freedom (everyone's birthright!)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What if they wished but could not** (yet) use their genuine insights as a tool to regain their authentic and genuine existential/essential state of freedom (liberation, moksha)?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It may well be that their &lt;i&gt;letting it all hang&lt;/i&gt; lead them into no more than pseudo-realization, fake liberation, or, if not that, than at least an incomplete form of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It seems to me that what they have in common is that they are (were) not able (yet?) to detach themselves from the compulsiveness of their impulses while they unfortunately assumed that their &lt;i&gt;giving up and giving in&lt;/i&gt;, their &lt;i&gt;letting go &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;letting it all hang &lt;/i&gt;is the real thing... not suspecting it to be as deluded as (indeed) the “mystical serenity” of their more hallowed new age competitors, the spiritual mystical strivers, the ones they so seem to detest...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;* This is not meant to say&amp;nbsp;that the value of the copious contributions by &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Watts"&gt;Alan Watts&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osho_%28Bhagwan_Shree_Rajneesh%29"&gt;Osho (Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh)&lt;/a&gt; to the cause of liberation (the Zen way or the Hindi way)&amp;nbsp;are to be dismissed. The dissemination of&amp;nbsp;their insights (quite pioneering in the West) into liberation, enlightenment and realization introduced the&amp;nbsp;Oriental approaches to a wide and ready public.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;** To find out more about the &lt;i&gt;hows and whys&lt;/i&gt; of "ill intended maneuvering" that "third parties" peruse to bring about &lt;i&gt;unilateral dependency&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;conditional freedom&lt;/i&gt; (which is no freedom at all) there are many articles on this website that deal with that. Please check out the Main Menu (top of the left column) for topics on this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;~~~&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Fionnchú:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I like your term "spiritual mercantilism", Wim, it complements &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%B6gyam_Trungpa" title="Chögyam Trungpa"&gt;Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche's&lt;/a&gt;  "spiritual materialism."  There's a  lively sub-genre as Noah Levine's "Dharma Punx" popularizing this  generational iconoclasm, perhaps as Warner &amp;amp; Levine both come out of  a post-hippie reaction to its vibes? For comparison and contrast, peek  along the way that &lt;a href="http://www.juniperpath.org/Juniper" rel="nofollow"&gt;Juniper: Buddhist training for modern life&lt;/a&gt; may be pioneering as a secular-scientific rapprochement, along the lines of Stephen Batchelor, as well as &lt;a href="http://www.skillfulmeditation.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Skillful Meditation Project&lt;/a&gt;  with its consideration of "unlearning meditation," suggest other, less  snarky or pop culture alternatives for the West (and recalling Dzogchen  Ponlop's call for a dharma that globalizing Easterners can also  accept!).   Juniper takes Tibetan and SMP Vipassana rooted  traditions while applying them to Western mindsets and what we know now  about the mind and body. Directions such as these may show a more mature  reaction to what Buddhism can evolve into, one that may be more  integrated than the interim stages that Warner may be reacting to.&lt;span class="comment-timestamp"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="comment-timestamp"&gt;25 September, 2010&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="item-control blog-admin pid-1397258551"&gt;&lt;a class="comment-delete" href="http://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;amp;postID=785538959055937117" title="Delete Comment"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="comment-timestamp"&gt;&lt;span class="item-control blog-admin pid-1397258551"&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;dl class="avatar-comment-indent" id="comments-block"&gt;&lt;dd class="comment-footer"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-8503732026980963608?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/8503732026980963608/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=8503732026980963608' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8503732026980963608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8503732026980963608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/09/two-sides-of-spiritual-mercantilism.html' title='The two Sides of Spiritual Mercantilism'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-8559696620111578956</id><published>2010-09-13T13:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:30:26.803-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conditional conditions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='perfection'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='liberation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='karma'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='suffering'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reincarnation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='power mongers'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='past lives'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='pseudo-self'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='free will'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moksha'/><title type='text'>"Work diligently to successfully regain the perfection of your original being"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47;"&gt;~ the Buddha's last words (paraphrased)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #741b47; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;A conversation on the liberation from suffering, illusion and karma and release of the belief in past-life karma and reincarnation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;This conversation took place over the internet, some parts by means of&amp;nbsp; voice chatting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;, other parts by means of keyboard chatting&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;"Those &lt;i&gt;beneficiares&lt;/i&gt; will give you thanks."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Sorry, Natalie, I don’t get what you mean by that...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Oh, gosh, I must have just&amp;nbsp; copy/pasted that in by accident, sorry. I’m feeling a bit weak today... But, hmm... why should I be feeling weak today? After all I spent quite a bit of time with my yoga teacher who was helping me meditate positively on issues to do with my health and well-being (kalyas*). He is a Theravada Buddhist teacher...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Hmm... I think I know... Maybe I'm feeling weak because afterward I did some intense burning off of personal &lt;i&gt;karma&lt;/i&gt;...**&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Right, maybe your timing of "karma burning" was a bit off... That happens.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But about "Those &lt;i&gt;beneficiares&lt;/i&gt; will give you thanks"...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Maybe it was not so accidental that you pasted that in, because it is true, isn't it?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Sooner or later all those who truly "benefit" will give thanks.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;(No universal good will ever go unnoticed.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But back to your "burning off some personal karma", I have heard that phrased differently, something like "killing the demons from one's past".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Incidentally, my wife just yesterday did quite a bit of that, but afterward she realized something very important, namely &lt;b&gt;the illusiveness of those "inner demons"&lt;/b&gt; - those inner turmoils that we sometimes like to call "demons" or "evil spirits". &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;She became quite convinced that what is usually seen as &lt;i&gt;personal karmic suffering, &lt;/i&gt;that it is really&amp;nbsp; based on illusion - artificially forced make belief.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;She discovered that, although suffering is somehow experienced internally and personally, that it really is not her own suffering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Karmic sufferings, brought on, so to speak, by '&lt;b&gt;outer&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;demons&lt;/b&gt;' in one's past, sooner or later tend to &lt;b&gt;POSE as 'inner' demons&lt;/b&gt;***. &lt;br /&gt;At some point they even tend to be identified that way - even experienced as such.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;But are they really &lt;b&gt;my&lt;/b&gt; inner demons? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who's&lt;/b&gt; suffering is it really?!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And... aren't those karmic sufferings really characterized by the very transience and impermanence**** that the Buddha called "illusion?! &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Natalie&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So true Wim, tell her that I often feel that too. I also know, albeit mentally, that 'my' suffering is not really mine.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So she realized that too eh? As for myself though, I realize it only sometimes, but... unfortunately &lt;i&gt;not now&lt;/i&gt;! Right now it feels as though this suffering is located as pain in my stomach.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I &lt;b&gt;do &lt;/b&gt;feel pain. I &lt;b&gt;do &lt;/b&gt;feel weak. I feel this aching emptiness, like a hole, a wound in the pit of my stomach.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I know it well, Natalie, it is a terrible feeling! But, like you say, although that&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;suffering is not really yours,&lt;b&gt; the body though &lt;i&gt;does &lt;/i&gt;feel it as physical pain...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Natalie&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What about that pain then, Wim?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Where does the pain come from if the suffering is not really mine?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If my suffering or based on illusion, delusion even, then why the physical pain?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well, the pain is &lt;b&gt;not &lt;/b&gt;an illusion, it is not even psycho-somatic! The pain is &lt;b&gt;your &lt;/b&gt;pain, you feel it physically. Maybe you can trace its origin.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Do you remember, from your past, when you felt that pain for the first time in your life? Can you remember the situation in which you actually first became aware of that aching, when it was first incurred?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Natalie&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well I would have to dig deep, but I'm sure that I can find instances. I may not find the first time that it happened, but...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I remember for instance that when I was still very young, how lonely I often felt, abandoned...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;and that is... ... That's when the pain &lt;i&gt;started&lt;/i&gt;, that aching in my stomach... Oh, and that intense nervous feeling in my belly...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And now... I am still feeling it!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Could that be the body's memory of &lt;b&gt;when &lt;/b&gt;exactly your suffering - your abandonment - was first instigated? The moment that you first became acutely aware of being abandoned?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You see, &lt;b&gt;pain and suffering, although they take place at the same time, they are a different kind of experience, the one is in the body, the other in the mind&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Pain is 'bodily' yours. It is actually a physical memory in your nerves and muscles of what took place physically when other people's anguish and/or anger was unduly instilled in you, transferred to you; when it was reflected onto you in the hope - false though - that by projecting their anguish, anger and suffering onto you, that they would be rid of it themselves.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Suffering is actually never ever 'bodily' yours. Suffering is only 'mentally' contained, in the form of disturbing messages or memories. &lt;br /&gt;The problem is that those memories or messages, although called memories, they are often 'forgotten', hidden actually, suppressed... even if they are registered by means of neural linkages and come up as mental associations!&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Whereas the associated pain is still physically felt, even years later, the originating circumstances are often suppressed and seem to be forgotten. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But when you remember what &lt;i&gt;actually &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;exactly &lt;/i&gt;took place, say, that moment when you were abandoned, when other people's anguish, frustration and suffering got transferred to you, then, what you now remember in your mind as &lt;i&gt;seemingly your&lt;/i&gt; anger, anguish, frustration and suffering, you are matching the &lt;i&gt;physical pain that you &lt;b&gt;now &lt;/b&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; with &lt;i&gt;the physical pain that you incurred &lt;b&gt;then&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, the previously repressed and seemingly forgotten memory.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Although the &lt;i&gt;memory is yours&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;the transferred suffering though, the anguish, etc. is actually not&lt;/i&gt;!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It was only&lt;i&gt; directed &lt;b&gt;to &lt;/b&gt;you, reflected &lt;b&gt;onto&lt;/b&gt; you&lt;/i&gt;, although... in a rather serious and convincing manner!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Suffering then - in its 'original origin' - is really only a projection onto you, a reflection that was initially only aimed at or directed to you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The problem is though that that projection was repeated so many times that at some point in your early life it stuck itself to you like a thistle... like Velcro... meaning, that over time you have been made to feel as though that projection was not a projection from the outside at all, but that it was you, that it represented you, that it identified you, and... unfortunately... it is still trying to do that.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So, now it feels that that suffering IS YOUR suffering, and… worse even: you have been made to believe that you were also the... cause of that suffering, in addition to the... result.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So, now it appears as though that suffering defines me... and that I myself caused my suffering?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Yes, you have been defined and identified by that suffering so much and so often, that eventually you came to fully identify yourself with it... causing you to also &lt;b&gt;assume&lt;/b&gt; that that suffering &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; part of your identity and reality…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But, of course it never ever was that, but… by now you have forgotten that.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So, at some point early in my life, I, my unadulterated being really, has been substituted by that passed-down pseudo-identity...? And I was made to adopt that pseudo-identity and treat it as ME?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;How did that happen, and when, and who made that projection?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Who projected that anguish, anger, or as you say 'their own assumed suffering' onto me, while, as you say, they expected that by projecting their own suffering, that they would be rid of it themselves?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Look for someone in your life's past... a malevolent person of course, BUT very likely appearing as benevolent... one who even thought, or even may have told you, that he or she had the best intentions in mind for you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;See if you can recognize that you have been artificially identified to be that 'pseudo-person' which 'that person with the best intentions' wanted you to be...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;People with secondary (often malevolent) motives do that so often that eventually one adopts that forced or made-up fake identity as one's own.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Eventually one even assumes that it has all been 'your own fault' or if not that, that you had it coming or deserved it… all the while forgetting - or having been made to forget - that you were actually tricked into the acquisition of that fake identity, that identity with that unwarranted and 'uncalled for' suffering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Isn't it interesting that suffering people have been tricked (through the instillation of fear by others with likely secondary, even malevolent motives) into treating illusion as more real than reality itself... thus having been tricked into replacing REALITY with pseudo-reality and their real SELF with a fake or pseudo-self?!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;That must be the reason why so many suffering and anguished people often say that they don't feel themselves!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Absolutely! Right on Natalie!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But back to "burning karma" or "killing demons"...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This is how demonic**** people (malevolent people / power mongers who use others for their own benefit, but to the detriment of the ones they are abusing) make you believe that it is "all your own fault", that it is YOUR karma… while… it is/was actually their abusive work, their karma** on you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And it enabled them to hold you under their control, in their power… and... which is even worse… if you did not succumb or surrender to them, they made you believe that you were absolutely discardable and not even worth to be alive!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;U ARE SO RIGHT...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And so, they abandoned me...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And they probably even expected that I might end up wanting to put an end to my life &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;About my meditation just now with that yoga teacher.... See, oddly enough, this person still smokes, and after my meditation I was so sad that I felt like smoking too, like I needed it as some form of compensation, hmm... consolation actually.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It was so strange, the sadness and the temptation or need for that artificial consolation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I mean, why after such a meditation, when I only wanted to burn off karma, that I felt like burning tobacco and inhaling smoke?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And.. that temptation made me even more sad.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Too bad about that temptation, but it was very good that you felt that enhanced sadness. It gave you a chance to look at it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So now, looking at that sadness...Do you now see that that sadness is really a repeat of the very first sadness you ever felt when you were for the first time duped in your life, and when you were for the first time conscious of the unfairness of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Yes, that is so true, that sadness and me wanting to cry came from the abandonment, the feeling of not being accepted, recognized - not being wanted!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So that’s also why the loneliness!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Somebody told me once that it was just bad luck...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Bad luck…?!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;That cannot be of course not, I so remember that I was a defenseless little child... a mistreated child... and now of course I always have that sense of being the victim…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You have a right to cry, so please do weep, you WERE so terribly duped...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It all happened when &lt;i&gt;your will&lt;/i&gt; was weakened AGAINST YOUR WILL, when &lt;i&gt;your free will &lt;/i&gt;was hijacked so to speak, when you were either taken advantage of, or when you were just abandoned and discarded.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You have a right to be angry... you have a right to stand up for yourself...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Then - in the past - when this first happened, you could not stand up for yourself, you were probably too small or too weakened, short-changed and underfed emotionally, and perhaps... physically as well...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Hence the pain or empty feeling in your stomach or around your &lt;i&gt;solar plexus&lt;/i&gt; - the seat of your willpower.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And, yes, this happens most often when a child is helpless, defenseless...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well, I feel hurt, intense hurt, like the wound is again open and I wonder why?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Yes, the old hurt revived..., that intense aching!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;By the way, Natalie, nothing of what we are talking about here is to assign blame or to judge anyone... but IT IS IMPORTANT to make contact with that moment... AND... to identify the players and the circumstances in the drama that took place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The players of course had no choice but to do to you what they were somehow also forced to do. If they still would've had their 'free will', they would never have done it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But compassion will take care of that... but later.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;NOW you have to identify that moment and identify the actors without fear... Good thing they are not here at the moment..., it is safe now.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Feel strengthened, Natalie, by this knowledge...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Be strong in this moment...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Let the weakness and sadness turn into strength...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Do some intensive deep breathing after your weeping, and… look for a feeling of triumph... however strange that might sound, however uncalled for triumph or even victory may seem…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Why does the attempt to liberate yourself cause so much pain and suffering?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;That feeling of suffering appears to be so ancient, as though from an other life… I have so many memories of that…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;More about that "other life" later, Natalie. For now, anger is good, &lt;i&gt;providing it is at some point followed by compassion&lt;/i&gt;, and it will be!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is a good thing that real rightful anger (not resentment, not hatred) will always be followed by compassion... you can take my word for it... and... love will follow as well, but it will be REAL love not fearful or pseudo-love that is being fed by guilt.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Yes, I feel that, but I would like to break this connection with suffering forever. Of course!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And you are right, &lt;b&gt;before compassion&lt;/b&gt; one must &lt;i&gt;understand &lt;/i&gt;that suffering, gain &lt;i&gt;deep insight&lt;/i&gt; into it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I feel that I need to understand how that... how did you put it?... how and why suffering was &lt;i&gt;instilled&lt;/i&gt; in me.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Right now though, on the whole, there is still so much darkness in my suffering…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Have you read my blog pieces on "reincarnation", "past lives" and "bad karma"?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What I write about that, you may at first not agree with, but please do read the pieces on it carefully and trust me fully: you can confidently give up the belief in past life karma. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/05/reincarnation.html"&gt;http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/05/reincarnation.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/02/reincarnation-past-lives-and-karma.html"&gt;http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/02/reincarnation-past-lives-and-karma.html&lt;/a&gt; (also read the comments) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2007/09/karma-power-of-entrapment.html"&gt;http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2007/09/karma-power-of-entrapment.html&lt;/a&gt; (also read the comments)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In fact, liberation (moksha) does not take place when you don't realize that past life karma is also part of that chain of suffering and ILLUSION!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The illusion being that you have been made to accept (or tricked into accepting) that you personally are the cause of your suffering - eternal suffering even, in the case of belief in past-life or past-lives karma and the reincarnations that presumably follow.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You can safely undo that belief in that so called 'reality' of past-life suffering.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Sure, that is a daring thing to do, I know, but when one does, one IS very brave...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;One MUST be very brave, as it (giving up the belief in past life karma) goes against the sentiments that unfortunately are such a strong part of certain unhealthy elements in many religions and most New Age spiritual approaches. Unhealthy, as those sentiments actually keep the 'believer' enslaved to those unhealthy elements of religion and spirituality - the elements that keep the 'believers' captive, bounded.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Attachment to that belief actually prevents, or, if not that, it can seriously stymie one's genuine liberation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It may be best to start with: &lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/05/reincarnation.html"&gt;http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/05/reincarnation.html&lt;/a&gt; and then to take it from there.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Well now that we are talking about all this, it seems that my inner self addressed me to you to find your good advice.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Thank you Natalie, but don't be surprised if you find yourself doubting what I am writing about karma and reincarnation in the articles I am suggesting you to read.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But that is to be expected as it is quite radical... but so was the Buddha's message, so was Jesus', so was Akhenaton's...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To be genuinely free and liberated, all beliefs eventually will have to be detached from.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;In spite of what most people think in the world of spirituality,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;most attachments are to… beliefs - &lt;b&gt;not &lt;/b&gt;things.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But you can unconditionally trust the process of liberation. All conditional attachments will eventually disappear while the process of liberation is taking place.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I know, I’m radical as well, eclectic even, but I would like to liberate with &lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/01/important-young-tibetan-lma.html"&gt;Palden Dorje&lt;/a&gt;. I dream being one of his disciples and experience Truth with no fear or attachments so that I can leave everything behind.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Palden Dorje is so pure, so 'virgin'. He does not want to be manipulated by any hierarchies, not even the Buddhist ones.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Four years ago I felt he is the one, and I’m so lucky to live in the same era.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is so wonderful to find such a person, someone who enables you in becoming unconditional in one's love, who helps you in your genuine search for truth and who enables you to reclaim and realize genuine unconditional happiness…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The need for renunciation - that has been my life and of part of my ancestors.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I have already renounced so many things, but I have still so many things left that I still need to detach from.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Any genuine liberator will help you to also become free of... the liberator himself (or herself), and any real liberator will remind you of that many times... even while you, who are following him (or her), feel so drawn and indebted to that person.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Any one-sided dependency - even on the guru - will disappear, although, the gratitude will of course always remain.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I know that! For sure!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;No attachment at all, not even to the guru… But still, the Buddha had many many disciples, and still Buddhism seems to be a wide religious movement of followers…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Let us always remember the very last words of the Buddha:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Vayadhamma sankhara appamadena sampadetha."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Work hard to successfully regain the perfection of you own original being."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I have to leave now, Natalie, it was privilege to be with you!!!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;We will talk again...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Love forever…&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Natalie&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Thank you Wim and I know that Palden Dorje will always invoke in us:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"Om Mani Padme Hum"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"You are a treasure, the light always shines in you!"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Remember how we started our conversation with "Those &lt;i&gt;beneficiares&lt;/i&gt; will give you thanks"?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;Indeed,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;And all negativity, illusion and suffering will be seen as transient and will disappear...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;Universal good will never cease and will never go unnoticed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* &lt;i&gt;Kalya &lt;/i&gt;(Sanskrit), Adverb - able, healthy, ready, well, capable, timely, pleasant, agreeable, auspicious.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Kalya, (&lt;/i&gt;proper name) masc. - with a short final vowel: ' a healthy boy'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Kalya, &lt;/i&gt;(proper name) fem. - with a long final vowel: 'she who is the object of admiring meditation'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;The name of the Goddess Lalita.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;** &lt;i&gt;Karma &lt;/i&gt;(Sanskrit) - originally karma means work, action or act.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;*** The '&lt;i&gt;demons&lt;/i&gt;' actually being ill intending victimizers (power-mongers and manipulators) with devious or deviating motives in the treatment of their charges by means of abusive strategies which increase their own advantage to the detriment of and at an emotional cost to their victims.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;**** Transience or &lt;i&gt;anicca &lt;/i&gt;(Pāli: अनिच्चा anicca; Sanskrit: अनित्य anitya).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;The Pali word '&lt;i&gt;anicca&lt;/i&gt;' is usually translated as '&lt;a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9_4HqpWy5NQJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impermanence+transience+sanskrit+buddha&amp;amp;cd=4&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;gl=ca&amp;amp;client=firefox-a"&gt;impermanence&lt;/a&gt;'. In my view however 'transience' does a slightly better job in reflecting what the Buddha intended to point out when he discussed that conditional phenomena***** are fleeting and cannot be depended upon or trusted with full confidence:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Conditions are as they are, they are givens (as in 'data'), they might or might not be transient, at least they can be scientifically and objectively measured, exactly calculated and even predicted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Condition&lt;b&gt;al &lt;/b&gt;phenomena however, are reflections that appear in the mind only. They cannot be depended upon with full confidence as they are mental interpretations that depend on the correctness of observations, interpretations and descriptions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;***** &lt;i&gt;Phenomenon &lt;/i&gt;(noun) from &lt;i&gt;phainomenon &lt;/i&gt;(Greek, noun) - that which appears,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;from &lt;i&gt;phainesthai&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;phainein &lt;/i&gt;- to show&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; (active verb)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt; but also &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;- to appear &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(passive verb)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-8559696620111578956?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/8559696620111578956/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=8559696620111578956' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8559696620111578956'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8559696620111578956'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/09/work-diligently-to-successfully-regain.html' title='&quot;Work diligently to successfully regain the perfection of your original being&quot;'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1191455163961380174</id><published>2010-09-06T11:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:31:16.253-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='subservience'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='impermanence'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='illusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ego'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='suffering'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='innate freedom'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='entrapment'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conditions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='awareness'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conditioning'/><title type='text'>Free by Nature - The Book</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;Notice:&lt;br /&gt;The printed book version of this publication is not available anymore, but everything that was in it (and much more!) you can still find freely on this website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Each article on this web magazine can of course be printed out individually. Just click on the&amp;nbsp;main title of any article and select "File / Print Preview"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; from your browser's "Menu Bar"&amp;nbsp; to see what it will look like in print. Then, if desired, make the appropriate changes (e.g. headers, footers, page numbering or margins) in "File / Page Setup" , and then select "File/ Print..."&amp;nbsp; .&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/R3wLEF2DIvI/AAAAAAAABAM/vGVaaahc0GU/s1600/IMG_6101.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" height="150" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5151004238721262322" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/R3wLEF2DIvI/AAAAAAAABAM/vGVaaahc0GU/s200/IMG_6101.JPG" style="display: block; margin-top: 0px; text-align: center;" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;FREE BY NATURE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;ALTHOUGH CONDITIONAL CONDITIONING MAKES IT SEEM THAT WE ARE NOT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;A 180 page publication, containing a collection of essays, correspondence, conversations and ruminations on: &lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Awareness, reality and illusion.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Impermanence and suffering.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Suffering and illusion.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Identity, ego and pseudo-self.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Entrapment, subservience and apparent loss of freedom.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The reclamation of innate freedom. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;From the back cover:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;"A surprise awaits the reader who accompanies the writer on his investigation into the dynamics and language of entrapment, dependency and suffering while he endeavors to uncover the causes of apparent loss of human freedom. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Witness how he digs up clue after clue on how this innate and inherent freedom came to be treated as only conditionally available.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;You are invited to look over his shoulders and find out with him how humankind was made to believe that dependence and suffering define life more than freedom and happiness do, and to discover that the claim on unconditional freedom and happiness is not only warranted but realizable for everyone." &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The booklet comes with: "Personal Power Pack&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(TM)&lt;/span&gt;," a mini booklet containing "points to ponder," a collection of phrases drawn from the main text that can be used for meditational consideration."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1191455163961380174?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1191455163961380174/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1191455163961380174' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1191455163961380174'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1191455163961380174'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2008/01/announcing-publication-of.html' title='Free by Nature - The Book'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/R3wLEF2DIvI/AAAAAAAABAM/vGVaaahc0GU/s72-c/IMG_6101.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-8286439211364840767</id><published>2010-09-03T10:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:31:45.869-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Valis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='illusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Belief'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Philip K Dick'/><title type='text'>Reality does not require belief</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: large;"&gt;If you want to know what is real, just let go of ALL beliefs.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/583/1824/1600/Reality%20does%20not%20require%20belief.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/583/1824/400/Reality%20does%20not%20require%20belief.jpg" style="display: block; margin: 0px auto 10px; text-align: center;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; color: #38761d;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;"Reality  manifests when you let go of all beliefs."&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-color: white; color: #38761d;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;~ Written on a wall in Omaha, 2003.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." *&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;~ Philip K. Dick in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;"&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Valis-Philip-K-Dick/dp/0679734465/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1274348372&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Valis&lt;/a&gt;"   (1981)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Variations&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Reality is what refuses to go away once you stop believing in it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Illusion is that what goes away when you stop believing in it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Reality doesn't go away when you stop believing in it, illusion does.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Truth doesn't go away when you stop believing in it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Illusion goes away when you stop believing it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Illusion isn't even 'there', even IF you believe in it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Truth doesn't go away when you stop believing in it, illusion does.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Truth doesn't go away when you stop believing in it, untruth does.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Reality manifests when you let go of all beliefs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;One realizes reality when one lets go of all beliefs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;As any belief's obfuscating notions evaporate, reality becomes clearer and clearer again.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;As beliefs dissolve, reality clarifies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Reality is what remains after one has let go of any belief, fear, expectation, regret, judgment, etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;A short conversation:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;First try to realize that you don't exist, that nothing does, and keep trying  until you suddenly realize that things are &lt;i&gt;just&lt;/i&gt; what they are.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Then you might discover:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. that it is best to  put all ideas to rest,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. that you can give up any belief,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. and that you can let go of all assumptions...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Then... just live as though there is no end to it!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Randy:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But Wim, shouldn't we &lt;b&gt;also give up the belief&lt;/b&gt; that &lt;i&gt;there is more&lt;/i&gt; at the end of life than just a biological end.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;For sure, providing  though that we &lt;b&gt;also give up the belief&lt;/b&gt; that &lt;i&gt;there is nothing&lt;/i&gt; at that so-called "end of life"!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;And now that we are into &lt;i&gt;giving up&lt;/i&gt;, we may as well drop any belief about what life entails,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;especially any belief about:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. how/where/when/why and if it ever began,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. how/where/when/why and if it would ever end,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;. and whatever appears to happen in between.&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt; Copyright RPG Inc. Pre-printed Post-It(R) note.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;~~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Scarlet Adams: &lt;/b&gt;But sometimes, belief is the only thing that leads you to reality. Then &amp;nbsp; what?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Belief isn't always illusion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Belief is what diminishes fear.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Belief is what erases any regrets.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Belief is what help you get rid of your ego, greed, anger, lust, illusion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Belief is essential, so embrace what you believe, and dig deeper to understand what it means.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Belief is the core trust that lies in our souls, which is a path way for us to see the Supreme Truth.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Belief is what leads us to see what the Truth of Reality."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;I very much appreciate your response, Scarlet.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What you write about belief is true insofar that it describes the intermediary steps or attempts by those who are on their way to retrieve genuine reality - ergo: people who are getting ready, beginning to, or in the process of looking genuine reality squarely, honestly, fearlessly and unconditionally trustingly in the face...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Reality is fully realized when all beliefs have dissipated or dissolved themselves after they have, so to say, served their worthwhile (but only temporarily so) bridging-the-gap purpose.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Full reality does not require belief, genuine reality is self-evident, it speaks clearly for itself, it is truth, it is dharma.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;What is usually or commonly called 'reality' is not 'direct' or 'immediate' 'self-evident' reality.  Such pseudo-reality is still in need of the crutches of mental reasoning, suppositions, assumptions, beliefs, hope, faith, etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Such pseudo-reality only SEEMS to be reality, but it is in appearance only, hence the Buddha identified that whole complexity as "illusion".  Hence also, in Buddhism and Hinduism it goes under the label of "maya".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You say very correctly that "Belief is what leads us to see what the Truth of Reality [is]."&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But - and I don't doubt that you know - unfortunately and all too commonly "believers" tend to be so attached to their beliefs that they treat their beliefs as more fundamental and real than the "Truth of Reality" they are aiming to reach with their beliefs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As long as one is so attached to one's beliefs as to not be able to let go of them eventually, reality (&lt;i&gt;dharma&lt;/i&gt;, truth) can not be realized...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;04 September, 2010&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-8286439211364840767?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/8286439211364840767/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=8286439211364840767' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8286439211364840767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/8286439211364840767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/09/reality-does-not-require-belief.html' title='Reality does not require belief'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1089926347081218015</id><published>2010-07-03T10:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-18T13:17:17.057-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='AbdEl Hakim Awyan'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Francis of Assisi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pharao'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Amarna'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Nefertiti'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Psalm 104'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Akhenaten'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Aten'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='King David'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Egypt'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='King Tut'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Solar Hymn'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='monotheist'/><title type='text'>Akhenaten's Hymn</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pk5hItNI/AAAAAAAAHVc/K0ba6ZwdsPA/s1600/Akhenaten.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pk5hItNI/AAAAAAAAHVc/K0ba6ZwdsPA/s320/Akhenaten.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten"&gt;Akhenaten&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;The young enlightened Egyptian pharaoh.&lt;br /&gt;A divinely inspired spiritual revolutionary,            possibly the first  monotheist.&lt;br /&gt;18th  Dynasty's (1353- 1336 BCE)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC-iSHpqDEI/AAAAAAAAHWU/tmB0Ta7VUvw/s1600/Metropolitan+with+Emmy+025.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC-iSHpqDEI/AAAAAAAAHWU/tmB0Ta7VUvw/s320/Metropolitan+with+Emmy+025.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9qCnuNblI/AAAAAAAAHWE/ajVAW-eskAI/s1600/head+of+akhenaten.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9qCnuNblI/AAAAAAAAHWE/ajVAW-eskAI/s200/head+of+akhenaten.jpg" width="150" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9p-AooAtI/AAAAAAAAHV8/RgL91omYrVg/s1600/nefertiti+bust.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9p-AooAtI/AAAAAAAAHV8/RgL91omYrVg/s200/nefertiti+bust.jpg" width="137" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Akhenaten and Nefertiti&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pcqpY0bI/AAAAAAAAHVU/mi-kg9O_i8c/s1600/Akhenaten,Nefertiti+and+their+children.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pcqpY0bI/AAAAAAAAHVU/mi-kg9O_i8c/s320/Akhenaten,Nefertiti+and+their+children.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pylVRoWI/AAAAAAAAHV0/bPdgZ9FplUY/s1600/amarna-stele.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pylVRoWI/AAAAAAAAHV0/bPdgZ9FplUY/s320/amarna-stele.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Akhenaten and Nefertiti &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.all-about-egypt.com/akhenaten.html"&gt;Illustration source&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="color: purple; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Akhenaten's Hymn to Aten &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(See footnotes 1 and 2)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: purple; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC-oRSzIRCI/AAAAAAAAHWs/M2QMv18uAkQ/s1600/Aten+Hierroglyph.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC-oRSzIRCI/AAAAAAAAHWs/M2QMv18uAkQ/s320/Aten+Hierroglyph.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;Hieroglyphs&lt;/span&gt; of Aten&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;, the Solar Disk&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pnGj3HJI/AAAAAAAAHVk/vHbAQd3KFJc/s1600/Akhenaten-Amenophis+IV+Hymn+to+Aten.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pnGj3HJI/AAAAAAAAHVk/vHbAQd3KFJc/s640/Akhenaten-Amenophis+IV+Hymn+to+Aten.jpg" width="353" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;"When you set in the Western horizon, the earth is in darkness and everything seems as lifeless as someone asleep in his sleeping quarters, eyes closed, seeing nothing, hardly even breathing.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: purple; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is dark now... the world is in silence. &lt;br /&gt;You, who made everything alive, are now resting behind the horizon.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, from the East &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;at dawn &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;you brighten the earth as you rise up over the horizon, chasing darkness away by sending forth your rays.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is light now... and you revitalize everything with your golden disk. You touch everything with your life giving energy.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Now, from the North to the South, our land's inhabitants are enjoying their daily tasks as though they are at a feast.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;You woke them up with your rays and t&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;hey are all fresh and on their feet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Everyone is bathing and&amp;nbsp; dressing themselves beautifully.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;They all&amp;nbsp; raise their arms in adoration of your dawning, and they proceed happily to busy themselves with their daily doings.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: purple; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: purple; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC-lCsC3IkI/AAAAAAAAHWk/yT9QdnqANQ8/s1600/Relief+Fragment+of+Akhenaten+With+Sun+Disk+of+Aten.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="172" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC-lCsC3IkI/AAAAAAAAHWk/yT9QdnqANQ8/s320/Relief+Fragment+of+Akhenaten+With+Sun+Disk+of+Aten.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9psUhh1oI/AAAAAAAAHVs/slP3ahOlYEM/s1600/Amarna+period+flora+and+fauna.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="265" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9psUhh1oI/AAAAAAAAHVs/slP3ahOlYEM/s320/Amarna+period+flora+and+fauna.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;The beasts feed themselves in their pastures and the trees and the plants flourish.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;Birds flutter in the marshes, their wings lifted up in adoration of your presence.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;Sheep and their lambs, goats and their kids jostle and dance in the fields.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;Insects fly about lively while you shed your light on them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;The fishes in the river and the sea leap up from the waves while they glisten in your rays.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;Ships and barges glide smoothly in the rivers, their sails in the wind, up and downstream alike.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;All roads and pathways are freely used everyone, their ways lit by your rays.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;You grow the ovum in a women and produce the sperm in a man, and you provide for the life of the child in its mother's womb.&lt;br /&gt;You sooth and console the children so that they will not be sad or weep, and you nourish them just as you nursed them while in the womb.&lt;br /&gt;You give breath to all living beings, and when they come forth from the womb on the day of their birth, you open their mouth so that they can find their voice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When the fledgling is still in its shell, you give it breath to secure its life, and your warmth hatches the egg till it burst open. The chicklet chirps with all his might, and then goes about on his two feet from the moment it emerges from its shell.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How manifold and varied are your works, even while so many of them remain hidden from our knowledge and sight.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh Divine One, with your infinite creative powers you formed everything that exists from the deepest core of your being.&lt;br /&gt;You, who brought forth all beings, humans and animals large and small, all that go about on their feet and fly high on their wings&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Considering all countries - amongst them Syria and Kush, and our land Egypt -&amp;nbsp; you enable everyone to be settled peacefully in their place.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;You supply all necessities of life and safeguard what everyone possesses.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i style="color: purple;"&gt;You protect everybody's livelihood, no matter which language they speak, no matter the color of their skin and - indifferent to the distinctions in their culture - you shine on them all, sanctioning and sanctifying all their varied diversity."&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Note 1. It was probably the Hebrew king &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David"&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;, the  biblical musician/poet, who, around 1000 BCE, wrote a similar hymn: psalm 104. Click &lt;a href="http://kemet.250x.com/psalm104.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (I am looking fro a new one) for a side by side reading of Akhenaten's hymn and psalm 104.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;Note 2. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Francis_of_Assisi"&gt;Saint Francis of Assisi&lt;/a&gt; wrote a comparable hymn or canticle in 1224: the&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canticle_of_the_Sun" title="Canticle of the Sun"&gt;Canticum Fratris Solis or Laudes Creaturarum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;(Abd'El Hakim Awyan - Egyptian archeologist)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1089926347081218015?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1089926347081218015/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1089926347081218015' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1089926347081218015'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1089926347081218015'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/07/akhenatens-hymn.html' title='Akhenaten&apos;s Hymn'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TC9pk5hItNI/AAAAAAAAHVc/K0ba6ZwdsPA/s72-c/Akhenaten.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-3578327363951232770</id><published>2010-06-24T21:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:33:56.640-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='illusion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='negative emotions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wizard of Oz'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='projection'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='negative thoughts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='unconditional freedom'/><title type='text'>"Your?" thoughts and emotions - whose are they really?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is quite possible that you'll have a hard time agreeing with the contents of this post. Its conclusions may seem to go against anything you have been made to believe about the ownership and source of 'your own' thoughts...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Give it a try though... It may help to get the point that I'm making if you also read:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2007/09/sentencing.html"&gt;Sentencing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2011/03/ownership-of-your-thoughts.html"&gt;The Ownership of Your (?) Thoughts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2011/03/reality-and-illusion.html"&gt;Reality and Illusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;Only &lt;br /&gt;positive thoughts and emotions&lt;br /&gt;are your own&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;and reflect reality!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;However,&lt;br /&gt;any negative thoughts and emotions &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;only &lt;i&gt;look and feel&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;as though&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; they are your own&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;and only &lt;i&gt;look and feel&lt;b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;as though&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; they reflect reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;They are NOT your own though,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;and they are NOT based on reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;How come though,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;that YOU seem to have those negative thoughts &lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;in your own mind,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #990000; text-align: center;"&gt;and that YOU seem to feel those negative emotions as being &lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;in your own body&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;All negative thoughts and all related negative emotions - in whatever form or through whatever process they may have been implanted into your mental and sensorial system* - are based on you having been 'captivatingly illusioned' (tricked) and '&lt;b&gt;sentenced for life&lt;/b&gt;' by people with self-serving, one-sided and manipulative motives after they put you under their spell of illusions&amp;nbsp; and lies - illusions and lies which were not only unduly and unfairly projected** onto you, but which you were also &lt;b&gt;tricked into believing&lt;/b&gt; that they were your own, of your own doing and... of your own choosing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As long as you still feel compelled to believe and nurse any negative thought and emotion, and as long as you consider any negative thought and emotion as being your own, you are still being held under that &lt;b&gt;captive mental spell&lt;/b&gt;, your a still living under &lt;b&gt;that life-sentence&lt;/b&gt; that was so unwarranted and so undeservedly passed over you.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Are you ready to give those negative thoughts, emotions, spells and illusions a chance to wear off and clear away?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Are you ready to dis-own and dis-avow them?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Are you ready to look-fearlessly-in-the-faces of those who got you stuck with that negativity?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Will you free yourself from them?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Are you ready to let go of that negativity - those negative thoughts and feelings which were never yours to begin with and which &lt;i&gt;by your very nature&lt;/i&gt; were never really a part of you?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Can you redefine and reclaim your original self by not feeling compelled to characterize yourself anymore the way you were at some point in the past unfairly tricked into identifying and characterizing yourself?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Are you ready to claim you inborn, unadulterated and unconditional freedom?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If yes, now enable yourself to be ready, and you will never unduly and unfairly be held accountable anymore for anything negative that you were &lt;i&gt;once and many times over&lt;/i&gt; made to feel was your own, your own doing and... of your own choosing...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;You can be unconditionally free again!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/04/life-is-miracle.html" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/THxjmK3I3TI/AAAAAAAAHXY/yjAf726Xl8w/s80/disable.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;See what happens when you&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;disable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;your (?) &lt;i&gt;pseudo&lt;/i&gt; self.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/04/life-is-miracle.html" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/THxjgRAKqoI/AAAAAAAAHXQ/DDGcx0SpAbA/s80/enable.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;See what happens when you&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;enable&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;your (!) &lt;i&gt;real &lt;/i&gt;self. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* &lt;a href="http://paradigm-update.blogspot.com/2006/01/mirror-neurons.html"&gt;Mirror Neurons&lt;/a&gt; ("echo neurons") are involved in this process.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;** Remember the&amp;nbsp;wizard / illusionist / projectionist&amp;nbsp;in "The&amp;nbsp;Wizard of Oz"!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;~~~&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Mitesh: &lt;/b&gt;Can same be true for positive thoughts? What is the role of our subconscious mind, as it always accepts everything without any resistance? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt; Answering your questions can only be done after we evaluate WHAT thoughts actually are...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Thoughts based on reality can be YOUR thoughts, "thoughts" based on negativity though (the denial of reality) can never be YOURS truly, as they are merely borrowed labels)...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Actually, they are NOT thoughts whatsoever, they only appear... as thoughts by simulating or mimicking them. (The reasoning behind this - although simplified here for brevity - is something along the lines of: A picture of a cow is not a cow, although a physical cow and the image of that same cow are both labeled "cow"!)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative "thoughts" (notice the quotes) ALWAYS have verbal content, through words that are externally acquired. Positive thoughts in principle DO NOT! Although they may (and often do) acquire verbal content.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative (or "faux") thoughts are actually NOT thoughts at all, it is only because their verbal contents is processed in the same part of the brain were reality (positive thinking) is processed, that they take on certain characteristics that RESEMBLE positive (or "proper") thoughts - RESEMBLE!!!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative (surrogate or faux) "thoughts" are based on illusion, whereas positive thoughts are based on reality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Positive thoughts come from an altogether different source (the inner unadulterated self!) than negative (faux, surrogate) "thoughts"... which come from external sources only as they are picked up and registered by our auditory (and partially our visual) sense.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Negative "thoughts" are always REACTIVE in their verbal content. They are also incomplete and unsuccessful attempts at APPEARING as reasoning while they TRY (as they can never be successful) to deny, invalidate or discount reality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;So although we use the same word "thought" for both positive and - seemingly similar - negative "phenomena", only the positive versions are thoughts proper (as they are based on reality) while the negative or faux ones only mimic thoughts proper, but... they are really only an illusion of thoughts.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As to your question about the "subconscious mind", the answer depends on the definition of what "consciousness" is and what "mind" is.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You may remember that I see "mind" merely as a handy (though sometimes clumsy) tool that Pure Awareness can make use of.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Awareness (ala Ramana Maharshi's self-inquiry "Who am I?") is of primary importance, whereas mental consciousness is only of secondary importance..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Only "un-Aware" people have under-performing and thus "sub-conscious" minds. I very much appreciate your question Mitesh!!! I hope that my answer will help you in YOU getting to YOUR authentic answers to all your questions... :) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;25 June, 2010&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Mitesh: &lt;/b&gt;Wim, could you please elaborate more about "reality"and what is "illusion" exactly?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;I - REALITY&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The etymological root of the word "reality" is the Latin word "res" which means "thing".&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Originally then, reality had to do with the "world of things", tangible things, or - to say it more completely - things that can be experienced through our five senses:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Touch (tactile),&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Vision (eidetic),&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Smell (olfactory),&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sound (auditory)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Taste (gustatory).&amp;nbsp; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In the classic and ancient Sanskrit literature (Heart Sutra, Hatha Yoga Pradipika, Gheranda Samhita, etc.) the five senses are described as being related to the five "skandhas" (aggregates) and the five lower "chakras" or subtle energy centres of the chakra system.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Please refer to: &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://thekundaliniprocess.blogspot.com/2009/11/updated-view-of-chakras.html"&gt;http://thekundaliniprocess.blogspot.com/2009/11/updated-view-of-chakras.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The five skandhas represent the five elements: earth, water, fire, air, space, or, in more scientific terms, the skandhas can be identified as phase or aggregate states:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Solid state,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Liquid state,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Plasmic state,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Gaseous state,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Wave state (from inter-corpuscular, via inter-particular to sub-atomic wave space).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Anything that cannot be sensorially experienced by the 5 senses is NOT a thing and therefore... an illusion!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note 1:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Of course, our sensorial faculties can be extended by any kind of measuring apparatus such as the microscope, telescope, particle collider, spectroscope, etc.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;For a comprehensive list of them see: &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_instrument&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note 2a:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The complete human sensorial experience can range from sensing the very gross to sensing the very subtle, which (the very subtle) incidentally also includes the spiritual experience of reality.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note 2b:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Mind you, if that spiritual reality is not experienced through all the well-developed and evenly balanced subtle (but still physical!) chakras or subtle energy centres of our body - meaning, if spirituality is only based on a mentalized belief system - it is not spiritual reality at all but illusion under the guise of spirituality. (What is traditionally considered to be the Kundalini experience of reality focuses on that subtle range, as it covers and includes the above described unadulterated spiritual experience of reality.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note 3:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The five sensorial experiences of a "thing" do not have to take place simultaneously, but each of the five senses will have to be satisfied sooner or later for "something" to be authentically a "thing". (It is interesting that the realism of the spiritual Kundalini experience is evidenced by the observation of subtle fragrances as well as a range of subtle visual, auditory and tangible vibrations and characteristics, and... ADDITIONALLY an enhanced and extended experiential awareness of space/time.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;II - ILLUSION&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Whatever is not covered by the above, occurs only in the rarified realm of mental illusion (Sanskrit "maya") - a pseudo version, or better yet, a mimicked version of reality. Illusion is artfully, or rather, artificially fed by allusions, illusions and delusions.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Altogether, illusion is a mental amalgam of confused and confusing beliefs, assumptions, suppositions, suspicions, fears, hopes, desires, expectations, skepticism, cynicism, fatalism, conspiratorial thinking and attitudes, paranoid notions, etc, etc. - anything supported by an imbalanced mind that leads to... vice rather than virtue!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Illusion is all that, which through:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;forced belief (manipulation through fear),&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;purchased belief (through the commerce of religion) and&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;make belief (a through trickery acquired disability to handle reality,)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;is artificially made to look more real than reality itself! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;05 July, 2010&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-3578327363951232770?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/3578327363951232770/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=3578327363951232770' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3578327363951232770'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3578327363951232770'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/06/negativity-only-looks-like-reality.html' title='&quot;Your?&quot; thoughts and emotions - whose are they really?'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/THxjmK3I3TI/AAAAAAAAHXY/yjAf726Xl8w/s72-c/disable.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-3061276329062075845</id><published>2010-06-19T13:02:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-01T00:15:39.430-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Andrew Cohen interviews Eckhart Tolle</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-right: 0.8em; padding-right: 0.8em; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TB0ZnKkkSOI/AAAAAAAAHN0/6SEW-VevyAo/s1600/Eckhart_Tolle_Spiritual_Teacher_Author+small.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TB0ZnKkkSOI/AAAAAAAAHN0/6SEW-VevyAo/s200/Eckhart_Tolle_Spiritual_Teacher_Author+small.jpg" width="177" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TB0YIWyeEeI/AAAAAAAAHNs/FK8HIp8uj34/s1600/AndrewCohenfounderWhatIsEnlightenmentmagazine+small.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TB0YIWyeEeI/AAAAAAAAHNs/FK8HIp8uj34/s200/AndrewCohenfounderWhatIsEnlightenmentmagazine+small.jpg" width="182" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="headshotLocation"&gt;&lt;div id="hs"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle"&gt;Eckhart Tolle (Bio &amp;amp; Resources)&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cohen_%28spiritual_teacher%29%20"&gt;Andrew Cohen (Bio &amp;amp; Resources)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="anniversary15"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ANDREW COHEN: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Eckhart,            what is your life like? I've heard that you're a bit of a  recluse and            that you spend a lot of time in solitude. Is that true?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ECKHART TOLLE: &lt;/b&gt;That was true in the past, before my  book &lt;i&gt;The            Power of Now&lt;/i&gt; came out. For many years I was a recluse. But  since            the publication of the book, my life has changed dramatically.  I'm now            very much involved in teaching and traveling. And people who  knew me            before say, "This is amazing. You used to be a hermit and now  you            are out in the world." Yet I still feel that inside nothing  has            changed. I still feel exactly the same as before. There is  still a continuous            sense of peace, and I am surrendered to the fact that on an  external            level there's been a total change. So it's actually not true  anymore            that I am a hermit. Now I'm the opposite of a hermit. This may  well            be a cycle. It may well be that at some point this will come  to an end            and I will become a hermit again. But at the moment, I am  surrendered            to the fact that I'm almost continuously interacting. I do  occasionally            take time to be alone. That is necessary in between teaching  engagements.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-right: 0.8em; padding-right: 0.8em; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Why is it that you need to take time to be  alone, and            what is it that happens when you take the time to be alone?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;When I'm with people, I'm a spiritual teacher.  That's the            function, but it's not my identity. The moment I'm alone, my  deepest            joy is to be nobody, to relinquish the function of a teacher.  It's a            temporary function. Let's say I'm seeing a group of people.  The moment            they leave me, I'm no longer a spiritual teacher. There's no  longer            any sense of external identity. I simply go into the stillness  more            deeply. The place that I love most is the stillness. It's not  that the            stillness is lost when I talk or when I teach because the  words arise            out of the stillness. But when people leave me, there is only  the stillness            left. And I love that so much.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Would you say that you prefer it?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Not prefer. There is a balance now in my life,  which perhaps            wasn't there before. When the inner transformation happened  many years            ago, one could almost say a balance was lost. It was so  fulfilling and            so blissful simply to &lt;i&gt;be &lt;/i&gt;that I lost all interest in &lt;i&gt;doing             &lt;/i&gt;or interacting. For quite a few years, I got lost in  Being. I had            almost relinquished doing completely—just enough to keep  myself alive            and even that was miraculous. I had totally lost interest in  the future.            And then gradually a balance re-established itself. It didn't  re-establish            itself fully until I started writing the book. The way I feel  now is            that there is a balance in my life between being alone and  interacting            with people, between Being and doing, whereas before, the  doing was            relinquished and there was only Being. Blissful, profound,  beautiful—but            from an external viewpoint, many people thought that I had  become unbalanced            or had gone mad. Some people thought I was crazy to have let  go of all            the worldly things I had "achieved." They didn't understand            that I didn't want or need any of that anymore.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;So            the balance now is between aloneness and meeting with people.  And that's            good. I'm quite attentive to that so that the balance doesn't  get lost.            There is now a pull toward increasing doing. People want me to  talk            here and talk there—there are constant demands. I know that I  need to            be attentive now, so that the balance is not lost, and I don't  get lost            in doing. I don't think it would ever happen, but it requires a  certain            amount of vigilance.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="" style="clear: both;"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;What would it mean to get lost in doing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="" style="clear: both;"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Theoretically, it would mean that I would  continuously travel,            teach, and interact with   people. Perhaps if that  happened, at some point            the flow, the stillness, might not be there. I don't know; it  may always            be there. Or physical exhaustion may set in. But I feel now  that I need            to return to the pure stillness periodically. And then, when  the teaching            happens, just allow it to arise out of the stillness. So the  teaching            and stillness are very closely connected. The teaching arises  out of            the stillness. But when I'm alone, there's only the stillness,  and that            is my favorite place.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;When you're alone, do you spend a lot of time  physically            being still?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j18/tolle/breaker.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img align="left" border="0" class="breaker" height="100" src="http://www.enlightennext.org/magazine/j18/tolle/breaker.jpg" width="140" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Yes, I can sometimes sit for two hours in a room  with almost            no thought. Just complete stillness. Sometimes when I go for  walks,            there's also complete stillness; there's no mental labeling of  sense            perceptions. There's simply a sense of awe or wonder or  openness, and            that's beautiful.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;In your book &lt;/i&gt;The Power of Now&lt;i&gt; you state  that "The            ultimate purpose of the world lies not within the world but in  transcendence            of the world." Could you please explain what you mean?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Transcending the world does not mean to withdraw  from the            world, to no longer take action, or to stop interacting with  people.           Transcendence of the world is to act and to interact without  any self-seeking.            In other words, it means to act without seeking to enhance  one's sense            of self through one's actions or one's interactions with  people. Ultimately,            it means not needing the future anymore for one's fulfillment  or for            one's sense of self or being. There is no seeking through  doing, seeking            an enhanced, more fulfilled, or greater sense of self in the  world.            When that seeking isn't there anymore, then you can be in the  world            but not be of the world. You are no longer seeking for  anything to identify            with out there.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Do you mean that one has given up an  egotistical, materialistic            relationship to the world?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Yes, it means no longer seeking to gain a sense of  self,            a deeper or enhanced sense of self. Because in the normal  state of consciousness,            what people are looking for through their activity is to be  more completely            themselves. The bank robber is looking for that in some way.  The person            who is striving for enlightenment is also looking for it  because he            or she is seeking to attain a state of perfection, a state of  completion,            a state of fullness at some point in the future. There is a  seeking            to gain something through one's activities. They are seeking  happiness,            but ultimately they are seeking themselves or you could say  God; it            comes down to the same thing. They are seeking themselves, and  they            are seeking where it can never be found, in the normal,  unenlightened            state of consciousness, because the unenlightened state of  consciousness            is always in the seeking mode. That means they are &lt;i&gt;of &lt;/i&gt;the  world—&lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt;            the world and &lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; the world.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;You mean that they are looking forward in time?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Yes, the world and time are intrinsically  connected. When            all self-seeking in time ceases, then you can be in the world  without            being of the world.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;What exactly do you mean when you say that the  purpose            of the world lies in the transcendence of it?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;The world promises fulfillment somewhere in time,  and there            is a continuous striving toward that fulfillment in time. Many  times            people feel, "Yes, now I have arrived," and then they realize            that, no, they haven't arrived, and then the striving  continues. It            is expressed beautifully in &lt;i&gt;A Course in Miracles, &lt;/i&gt;where  it says            that the dictum of the ego is "Seek but do not find." People            look to the future for salvation, but the future never  arrives.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;So            ultimately, suffering arises through not finding. And that is  the beginning            of an awakening—when the realization dawns that "Perhaps this  is            not the way. Perhaps I will never get to where I am striving  to reach;            perhaps it's not in the future at all." After having been lost             in the world, suddenly, through the pressure of suffering, the  realization            comes that the answers may not be found out there in worldly  attainment            and in the future.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;That's            an important point for many people to reach. That sense of  deep crisis—when            the world as they have known it, and the sense of self that  they have            known that is identified with the world, become meaningless.  That happened            to me. I was just that close to suicide and then something  else happened—a            death of the sense of self that lived through identifications,  identifications            with my story, things around me, the world. Something arose at  that            moment that was a sense of deep and intense stillness and  aliveness,            beingness. I later called it "presence." I realized that  beyond            words, &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; is who I am. But this realization wasn't a  mental            process. I realized that that vibrantly alive, deep stillness  is who            I am.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;Years            later, I called that stillness "pure consciousness," whereas            everything else is the conditioned consciousness. The human  mind is            the conditioned consciousness that has taken form as thought.  The conditioned            consciousness is the whole world that is created by the  conditioned            mind. Everything is our conditioned consciousness; even  objects are.            Conditioned consciousness has taken birth as form and then  that becomes            the world. So to be lost in the conditioned seems to be  necessary for            humans. It seems to be part of their path to be lost in the  world, to            be lost in the mind, which is the conditioned consciousness.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;Then,            due to the suffering that arises out of being lost, one finds  the unconditioned            as oneself. And that is why we need the world to transcend the  world.            So I'm infinitely grateful for having been lost.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;The            purpose of the world is for you to be lost in it, ultimately.  The purpose            of the world is for you to suffer, to create the suffering  that seems            to be what is needed for the awakening to happen. And then  once the            awakening happens, with it comes the realization that  suffering is unnecessary            now. You have reached the end of suffering because you have  transcended            the world. It is the place that is free of suffering.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;This            seems to be everybody's path. Perhaps it is not everybody's  path in            this lifetime, but it seems to be a universal path. Even  without a spiritual            teaching or a spiritual teacher, I believe that everybody  would get            there eventually. But that could take time.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;A long time.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Much longer. A spiritual teaching is there to save  time.            The basic message of the teaching is that you don't need any  more time,            you don't need any more suffering. I tell this to people who  come to            me: "You are ready to hear this because you are listening to  it.            There are still millions of people out there who are not  listening to            it. They still need time. But I am not talking to them. You  are hearing            that you don't need time anymore and you don't need to suffer  anymore.            You've been seeking in time and you've been seeking further  suffering."            And to suddenly hear that "You don't need that anymore—for  some,            that can be the moment of transformation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;So            the beauty of the spiritual teaching is that it saves  lifetimes of —&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Unnecessary suffering.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Yes, so it's good that people are lost in the  world. I enjoy            traveling to New York and Los Angeles, where it seems that  people are            &lt;i&gt;totally&lt;/i&gt; involved. I was looking out of the window in  New York.            We were next to the Empire State Building, doing a group. And  everybody            was rushing around, almost running. Everybody seemed to be in a  state            of intense nervous tension, anxiety. It's suffering, really,  but it's            not recognized as suffering. And I thought, where are they all  running            to? And of course, they are all running to the future. They  are needing            to get somewhere, which is not here. It is a point in time:  not now—&lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt;.            They are running to a &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt;. They are suffering, but  they don't            even know it. But to me, even watching that was joyful. I  didn't feel,            "Oh, they should know better." They are on their spiritual            path. At the moment, &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; is their spiritual path, and  it works            beautifully.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Often the word enlightenment is interpreted to  mean the            end of division within the self and the simultaneous discovery  of a            perspective or way of seeing that is whole, complete, or free  from duality.            Some who have experienced this perspective claim that the  ultimate realization            is that there is no difference between the world and God or  the Absolute,            between &lt;/i&gt;samsara&lt;i&gt; and &lt;/i&gt;nirvana,&lt;i&gt; between the  manifest and            the unmanifest. But there are others who claim that, in fact,  the ultimate            realization is that the world doesn't actually exist at  all—that the world is            only an illusion, completely empty of meaning, significance,  or reality.            So in your own experience, is the world real? Is the world  unreal? Both?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Even when I'm interacting with people or walking in  a city,            doing ordinary things, the way I perceive the world is like  ripples            on the surface of being. Underneath the world of sense  perceptions and            the world of mind activity, there is the vastness of being.  There's            a vast spaciousness. There's a vast stillness and there's a  little ripple            activity on the surface, which isn't separate, just like the  ripples            are not separate from the ocean.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;So            there is no separation in the way I perceive it. There is no  separation            between being and the manifested world, between the manifested  and the            unmanifested. But the unmanifested is so much vaster, deeper,  and greater            than what happens in the manifested. Every phenomenon in the  manifested            is so short-lived and so fleeting that, yes, one could almost  say that            from the perspective of the unmanifested, which is the  timeless beingness            or presence, all that happens in the manifested realm really  seems like            a play of shadows. It seems like vapor or mist with  continuously new            forms arising and disappearing, arising and disappearing. So  to the            one who is deeply rooted in the unmanifested, the manifested  could very            easily be called unreal. I don't call it unreal because I see  it as            not separate from anything.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;So it is real?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;All that is real is beingness itself. Consciousness  is all            there is, pure consciousness.&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;You're saying that            the definition of "real" would be that which is free from            birth and death?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;That's right.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;So only that which was never born and cannot die  would            be real. And since the manifest world is ultimately not  separate from            the unmanifest, according to what you are saying, in the end,  one would            have to say it's real.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Yes, and even within every form that is subject  to birth            and death, there is the deathless. The essence of every form  is the            deathless. Even the essence of a blade of grass is the  deathless. And            that's why the world of form is sacred. It's not that the  realm of the            sacred is exclusively being or the unmanifested. Even the  world of form            I see as sacred.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;If someone simply asks you, "Is the world real  or            unreal?" would you say it was real or would you have to  qualify            the statement?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;I would probably qualify the statement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Saying what?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;It's a temporary manifestation of the real.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;So if the world is a temporary manifestation of  the real,            what is the &lt;/i&gt;enlightened&lt;i&gt; relationship to the world?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;To the unenlightened, the world is all there is.  There is            nothing else. This time-bound mode of consciousness clings to  the past            for its identity and desperately needs the world for its  happiness and            fulfillment. Therefore, the world holds enormous promise but  poses a            great threat at the same time. That is the dilemma of the  unenlightened            consciousness: it is torn between seeking fulfillment in and  through            the world and being threatened by it continuously. A person  hopes that            they will find themselves in it, and at the same time they  fear that            the world is going to kill them, as it will. That is the state  of continuous            conflict that the unenlightened consciousness is condemned  to—being            torn continuously between desire and fear. It's a dreadful  fate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The            enlightened consciousness is rooted in the unmanifested, and  ultimately            is one with it. It knows itself to be that. One could almost  say it            is the unmanifested looking out. Even with a simple thing like  visually            perceiving a form—a flower or a tree—if you are perceiving it  in a state            of great alertness and deep stillness, free of past and  future, then            at that moment already it is the unmanifested. You are not a  person            anymore at that moment. The unmanifested is perceiving itself  in form.            And there is always a sense of goodness in that perception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So            then all action arises out of that, and has a completely  different quality            from action that arises out of the unenlightened  consciousness, which            &lt;i&gt;needs&lt;/i&gt; something and seeks to protect itself. That is  really where            those intangible and precious qualities come in that we call  love, joy,            and peace. They are all one with the unmanifested. They arise  out of            that. A human being who lives in connectedness with that and  then acts            and interacts becomes a blessing on the planet, whereas the  unenlightened            human is very heavy on the planet. There is a heaviness to the  unenlightened.            And the planet is suffering from millions of unenlightened  humans. The            burden on the planet is almost too much to bear. I can  sometimes feel            it as the planet saying, "Oh, no more, please."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;You encourage people to meditate, to as you  describe it,            "rest in the Presence of the Now" as much as possible. Do            you think that spiritual practice can ever become truly deep  and have            the power to liberate if one has not already given up the  world and            what the world represents, at least to some degree?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;I wouldn't say that the practice itself has the  power to            liberate. It's only when there is complete surrender to the  now, to            &lt;i&gt;what is,&lt;/i&gt; that liberation is possible. I do not believe  that a            practice will take you into complete surrender. Complete  surrender usually            happens through living. Your very life is the ground where  that happens.            There may be a partial surrender and then there may be an  opening, and            then you may engage in spiritual practice. But whether the  spiritual            practice is taken up after a certain degree of insight or the  spiritual            practice is just done in and of itself, the practice alone  won't do            it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Something that I've found in my own teaching  work is that            unless the world has been seen through to a certain degree,  and unless            there is a willingness based on that seeing to let go of it,  then spiritual            experience, no matter how powerful it is, is not going to lead  to any            kind of liberation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;That's right, and the willingness to let go &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt;  surrender.            That remains the key. Without that, no amount of practice or  even spiritual            experiences will do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Yes, many people say they want to meditate or do  spiritual            practice, but their spiritual aspirations are not based on a  willingness            to let go of anything substantial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;No, in fact it may be the opposite. Spiritual  practice may            be a way to try to find something new to identify with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ultimately, would you say that real spiritual  practice            or real spiritual experience is meant to lead one to the  letting go            of the world, the transcendence of the world, the  relinquishment of            attachment to the world?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Yes. Sometimes people ask, "How do you get to that?             It sounds wonderful, but how do you get there?" In concrete  terms,            at its most basic, it simply means to say "yes" to this  moment.            That is the state of surrender—a total "yes" to what is. Not            the inner "no" to what is. And the complete "yes"            to what is, &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; the transcendence of the world. It's as  simple            as that—a total openness to whatever arises at this moment.  The usual            state of consciousness is to resist, to run away from it, to  deny it,            to not look at it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;So when you say a "yes" to what is, do you mean            not avoiding anything and facing everything?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Right. It's welcoming this moment, embracing this  moment,            and that is the state of surrender. That is really all that's  needed.            The only difference between a Master and a non-Master is that  the Master            embraces what is, totally. When there is nonresistance to what  is, there            comes a peace. The portal is open; the unmanifested is there.  That is            the most powerful way. We can't call it practice because  there's no            time in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;For most people who are participating in the  East-meets-West            spiritual explosion that is occurring with ever-greater speed  these            days, both Gautama the Buddha and Ramana Maharshi—one of the  most respected            Vedantins of the modern era—stand out as peerless examples of  full-blown            enlightenment, and yet, interestingly enough, in regard to  this question            of the right relationship to the world for the spiritual  aspirant, their            teachings diverge dramatically. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The            Buddha, the world-renouncer, encouraged those who were the  most sincere            to leave the world and follow him in order to live the holy  life, free            from the cares and concerns of the householder life. Yet  Ramana Maharshi            discouraged his disciples from leaving the household life in  pursuit            of greater spiritual focus and intensity. In fact, he  discouraged &lt;/i&gt;any&lt;i&gt;            outward acts of renunciation and instead encouraged the  aspirant to            look within and find the cause of ignorance and suffering  within the            self. Indeed, many of his growing number of devotees today say  that            the desire to renounce is actually an expression of ego, the  very part            of the self that we want to liberate ourselves from if we want  to be            free. But of course the Buddha laid great stress on the need  for renunciation,            detachment, diligence, and restraint as the very foundation on  which            liberating insight can occur.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So            why do you think the approaches of these two spiritual  luminaries differ            so widely? Why do you think that the Buddha encouraged his  disciples            to leave the world while Ramana encouraged them to stay where  they were?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;There's not one way that that works. Different ages  have            certain approaches, which may be more effective for one age  and no longer            effective in another age. The world that we live in now has  much greater            density to it; it is much more all-pervasive. And when I say  "world,"            I include the human mind in it. The human mind has grown even  since            the time of the Buddha, 2,500 years ago. The human mind is  more noisy            and more all-pervasive, and the egos are bigger. There's been  an ego            growth over thousands of years; it's growing to a point of  madness,            with the ultimate madness having been reached in the twentieth  century.            One only needs to read twentieth-century history to see that  it has            been the climax of human madness, if it's measured in terms of  human            violence inflicted on other humans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So            in the present time, we can't escape from the world anymore;  we can't            escape from the mind. We need to enter surrender while we are &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt;             the world. That seems to be the path that is effective in the  world            that we live in now. It may be that at the time of the Buddha,  withdrawing            was much, much easier than it would be now. The human mind was  not yet            so overwhelming at that time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;But the reason that the Buddha preached leading  the homeless            life was because he felt that the household life was full of  worries,            cares, and concerns, and in that context he felt it would be  difficult            to do what was needed to live the holy life. So in terms of  what you're            saying about the noise and distraction of the world, that is  actually            precisely what he was addressing and why in fact he led the  homeless            life and encouraged other people to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Well, he gave his reasons, but ultimately we don't  know why            the Buddha put the emphasis on leaving the world rather than  saying            as Ramana Maharshi did, "Do it in the world." But it seems            to me, from what I have observed, that the more effective way &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;             is for people to surrender &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; the world rather than  attempt to            remove themselves from the world and create a structure that  makes it            easier to surrender. There's a contradiction there already  because you're            creating a structure to make it easier to surrender. Why not  surrender            now? You don't need to create anything to make surrender  easier because            then it's not true surrender anymore. I've stayed in Buddhist  monasteries            and I can see how easily it can happen—they have given up  their name            and adopted a new name, they've shaved their heads, they wear  their            robes—&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;You're saying that one world has been abandoned  for another.            One identification has been given up for another; one role has  been            dropped and another has been assumed. Nothing has actually  been given            up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;That's right. Therefore do it where you are, right  here,            right now. There's no need to seek out some other place or  some other            condition or situation and then do it there. Do it right here  and now.            Wherever you are is the place for surrender. Whatever the  situation            is that you're in, you can say "yes" to what is, and that            is then the basis for all further action.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;There are many teachers and teachings today that  say that            the very desire to renounce the world is an expression of ego.  How do            you see that?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;The desire to renounce the world is again the  desire to reach            a certain state that you don't have now. There's a mental  projection            of a desirable state to reach—the state of renunciation. It's  self-seeking            through future. In that sense, it is ego. True renunciation  isn't the            desire to renounce; it arises as surrender. You cannot have a  desire            to surrender because that's non-surrender. Surrender arises  spontaneously            sometimes in people who don't even have a word for it. And I  know that            openness is there in many people now. Many people who come to  me have            a great openness. Sometimes it only requires a few words and  immediately            they have a glimpse, a taste of surrender, which may not yet  be lasting,            but the opening is there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;What about the spontaneous call from the heart  to abandon            all that's false and illusory, all that's based on the ego's  materialistic            relationship to life? For example, when the Buddha decided, "I             have to leave my home behind—it would probably be hard to say  that was            an egotistical desire, looking at the results. And Jesus  saying, "Come            follow me. Let the dead bury their dead."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;That is recognizing the false as false, which is  mainly an            inner thing—to recognize false identifications, to recognize  the mental            noise, and what had been identification with mental images as a  "me"            entity, to be false. That is beautiful, that recognition. And  then action            may arise out of the recognition of the false, and perhaps you  can see            the false reflected in your life circumstances and you may  then leave            those behind—or not. But the recognition and relinquishment of  all that            is false and illusory is primarily an inner one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Those two cases, the Buddha and Jesus, would be  examples            of powerful outer manifestations of that inner recognition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;That's right. There's no predicting what is going  to happen            as a result of that inner recognition. For the Buddha, of  course, it            came because he was already an adult when he suddenly realized  that            humans die and become ill and grow old. And that was so  powerful that            he looked within and said that everything is meaningless if  that's all            there is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;But then he was compelled to go off, to abandon  his kingdom.            From a certain point of view he could have said, "Well, it's  all            here right now, and all I need to do is just surrender  unconditionally            here and now." Then I guess the result could have been very  different,            he could have been an enlightened king!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;But at that point he didn't know that all that was  necessary            was surrender.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Yet, when Jesus was calling the fishermen to  leave their            families and their lives to follow him and, similarly, when  the Buddha            would walk through towns and call the men to leave everything  behind,            their surrender was demonstrated &lt;/i&gt;in the actual leaving&lt;i&gt;,  in saying            "yes" to Jesus or the Buddha and letting go of their worldly            attachments. And obviously there would also be their inner  attachment            to let go of as well. In these cases, letting go wasn't only a  &lt;/i&gt;metaphor&lt;i&gt;            for inner transcendence; it also meant &lt;/i&gt;literally&lt;i&gt;  letting go of            everything.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;For some people that &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; part of it. They may  leave            their habitual surroundings or activities, but the only  question is            whether or not they have already seen the false within. If  they haven't,            the external letting go will be a disguised form of  self-seeking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;For my last question I'd like to ask you about  the relationship            between your understanding of enlightenment, or the experience  of nondual            consciousness, and engagement with the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In            Judaism, fully engaging with the world and human life is seen  as the            fulfillment of the religious calling. In fact, they say it is &lt;/i&gt;only             &lt;i&gt;through wholeheartedly living the commandments that the  spiritual            potential of the human race can become manifest on earth.  Jewish scholar            David Ariel writes, "&lt;/i&gt;We &lt;i&gt;finish the work of creation . .             . God stands in need of us because only we can perfect the  world."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many            enlightenment or nondual teachings like your own emphasize the  enlightenment            of the individual. Indeed, transcendence of the world seems to  be the            whole point. But our Jewish brothers appear to be calling us  to something            very different—the spiritualization of the world through  devoted men's            and women's wholehearted participation &lt;/i&gt;in&lt;i&gt; the world. So  is it            true that nondual enlightenment teachings deprive the world of  our wholehearted            participation in it? Does the very notion of transcendence rob  the world            of the fulfillment of our potential to spiritualize it as  God's children?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;No, because right action can only flow out of that  state            of transcendence of the world. Any other activity is  ego-induced, and            even doing good, if it's ego-induced, will have karmic  consequences.            "Ego-induced" means there is an ulterior motive. For example,            it enhances your self-image if you become a more spiritual  person in            your own eyes and that feels good; or another example would be  looking            to a future reward in another lifetime or in heaven. So if  there are            ulterior motives, it's not pure. There cannot be true love  flowing into            your actions if the world has not been transcended because  you're not            connected with the realm out of which love arises.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;AC: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Do you mean pure action, untainted by ego?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;span class="articleCopy"&gt;&lt;b&gt;ET: &lt;/b&gt;Yes, first things first. What comes first is  realization            and liberation, and then let action flow out of that—and that  will be            pure, untainted, and there's no karma attached to it  whatsoever. Otherwise,            no matter how high our ideals are, we will still strengthen  the ego            through our good actions. Unfortunately, you cannot fulfill  the commandments            unless you are egoless—and there are very few who are—as all  the people            who have tried to practice the teachings of Christ have found  out. "Love            your neighbor as yourself" is one of the main teachings of  Jesus,            and you cannot fulfill that commandment, no matter how hard  you try,            if you don't know who you are at the deepest level. Love your  neighbor            &lt;i&gt;as&lt;/i&gt; yourself means your neighbor &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; yourself, and  that            recognition of oneness is love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;~~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Anonymous:   &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Nice to read more of Tolle's thoughts. As an interviewer you really shouldn't talk more than your interviewee, and definitely shouldn't cut him off multiple times. Is there some ego there? Perhaps you'd like to grapple with a master and feel some mastery of him, yourself? It's worth considering. Still, thanks for the interview. I got linked here by accident, looking for something entirely different. But I'm glad I came by.&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Peter:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This interview is more in the format of a conversation between Andrew Cohen and Eckhart Tolle in which AC is asking the questions while also adding some remarks to steer the interview to the next topic of discussion. The result is a series of very succinct and to the point responses from ET. By the way, AC is not someone to be discounted... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;01 September, 2010&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-3061276329062075845?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/3061276329062075845/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=3061276329062075845' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3061276329062075845'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3061276329062075845'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/06/andrew-cohen-interviews-eckhart-tolle.html' title='Andrew Cohen interviews Eckhart Tolle'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/TB0ZnKkkSOI/AAAAAAAAHN0/6SEW-VevyAo/s72-c/Eckhart_Tolle_Spiritual_Teacher_Author+small.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-4910212706227919091</id><published>2010-05-21T22:43:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-30T23:21:40.140-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Realization'/><title type='text'>The Mother of all Concepts: to feel at odds with oneself and separated from others</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Clay:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Can realization be experienced?&lt;br /&gt;If 'yes', by who/what?&lt;br /&gt;If 'no', is realization only a concept?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Realization remains an idea or concept only until one recognizes / realizes and thus experiences one's original being*. From that moment of recognition on, one's existence is* authentically, unquestionedly and directly experienced by &lt;i&gt;oneself&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Actually, the notion that one feels estranged or separated from one's original authentic self (and concomitantly others) is '&lt;b&gt;the mother of all concepts'&lt;/b&gt;, a concept that - for most people from the moment of their birth - has been artificially, unduly and unfairly forced upon them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;*To have it totally right, the word 'again' should be inserted here, as the realization and re-cognition of one's original self (yourself) is in actuality a reclamation of that reality-of-self before one was made to lose sight of it - before that reality went into 'abeyance'. Within everyone such reclamation is eagerly waiting&amp;nbsp; for the moment to be discovered.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-4910212706227919091?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/4910212706227919091/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=4910212706227919091' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4910212706227919091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4910212706227919091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/05/mother-of-all-concepts.html' title='The Mother of all Concepts: to feel at odds with oneself and separated from others'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-4287682217534777211</id><published>2010-05-21T22:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-30T23:20:02.761-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Enlightened View</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pete:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; I don't like the  word enlightenment. It's vague, it evokes fantastic expectations, but I  think there is such a thing as &lt;i&gt;an enlightened point of view&lt;/i&gt;, a   point of view that can clearly be reflected  in words. It's a point of  view which points to less rather than more: less beliefs, less reliance  in conceptuality, less mental agitation. Its sole aim is to set the mind  at easy, at peace. Peace with itself and the "world." A peaceful mind  inevitably will see unity, would perceive wholly.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;When you read material which aims to multiply concepts, to  acquire more beliefs, to make you feel more emotions, even those  positive ones such as love and rapture, know that doesn't come from an  enlightened view, or a mind at  peace. It comes  from the urge to  acquire, to aspire at more, and more, and more. There is no peace in  more, there is no end to more.&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; What needs  understanding is that "...such thing as an enlightened point of view" is  still is a POINT of view. I'd suggest that the enlightened view  understandingly accepts the presence of any points of view.&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Josie:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Well then, this  is another point of view I accept... understandingly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pete:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;  Ah yes, I understood that, and - also understandingly - let it slide.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Enlightenment is not bound by rules. It could accept a  particular point of view as expressed by one, and reject it in another.  It could say, amend today, and nay, no, never tomorrow about the same  point of view.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: #666666; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Yes, like one can  play with restrictions and limitations the way a child plays at the  beach building a sand castle under a hot summer sun, kept cool by a the  summer breeze.&lt;br /&gt;At the end of the day - next flooding tide of course - the castle with  all its fortifications and scrap beach-wood amenities will be gone. But  happily enough, next day the child will play the same game with the  elements again... earth/sand, water/sea, fire/sun, air/breeze...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="color: #993300;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;(A conversation from 11/9/05)&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" style="color: #993300;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-4287682217534777211?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/4287682217534777211/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=4287682217534777211' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4287682217534777211'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/4287682217534777211'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/05/enlightened-view.html' title='The Enlightened View'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-2979213785915456787</id><published>2010-05-19T10:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T14:08:58.950-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Krassner'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='reincarnation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='past lives'/><title type='text'>Reincarnation, do we need it?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;"I used to believe in reincarnation but that was in a past life"&lt;br /&gt;~ &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krassner"&gt;Paul Krassner&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  I have been wondering about beliefs and theories about how we survive  death to live on again in another body. This is pretty much taken for  granted in many mainstream eastern philosophies. The puzzling part is  making &lt;i&gt;non-dualism&lt;/i&gt; and its &lt;i&gt;moksha&lt;/i&gt; (enlightened liberation) somehow fit into this game plan.&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; It can be done when we &lt;b&gt;re-view&lt;/b&gt; the  conventional concept of reincarnation and find out that it is based on  something more original, something that is prior to the idea of  reincarnation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;In my own case I found that I don't have to adhere to  'reincarnation' at all to make sense of my experiences of memories of  events that happened prior to my date of conception. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;If I do use the term 'Past Lives', I don't use it in the  context that it means that I or anyone lives through a string of &lt;b&gt;personal &lt;/b&gt;past  (and future!) lives. There are way too many people who have claimed to be Cleopatra!!! &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  But Wim, there are far too many people out there who have semi-briefly  experienced this 'continuity process' to toss it out as merely some sort  of 'must go on until we get perfected' mind-set or manner of thinking.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; True!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; So, I think it - reincarnation - must be happening.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; No doubt, 'something' IS happening. But that something that is 'happening' became at some point and over time misinterpreted until it eventually developed into the 'belief in reincarnation' and the 'concept of past lives'.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The way I see it is that the idea of, say, '&lt;i&gt;personally owned past lives&lt;/i&gt;'  and '&lt;i&gt;reincarnation linked to past life karma&lt;/i&gt;' is a simplification of something that is in origin fundamental and radical...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Compare it to how an 'urban myth' can evolve from something that was originally very primal, fundamental and  real, into something that subsequently became 'just' a belief, concept or theory or a powerful - but still dubiously fanciful - myth.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Yes, I can see that. What I am also beginning to see is that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;while still believing in or accepting the 'good  old  reincarnation  process' that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;it is difficult to adhere to an 'advanced' non-dualistic philosophy of life or being. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; I don't think it is  difficult, I think it is impossible!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;But... we might be able to understand how from some underlying  and original genuine dynamics, concepts like reincarnation, past lives and past life karma could develop. We could investigate why and how they, from our perspective, became such confused and confusing derivations.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Brian:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; Does one have to reject one  in order to believe the other?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Could it be that there is indeed a  &lt;i&gt;survival of the death process&lt;/i&gt; alongside a &lt;i&gt;subsequent reincarnation&lt;/i&gt;?  Or... maybe not, reincarnation also seems to be something to get beyond as it is essentially contains quite a bit of fatalistic judgmentalism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; I think Brian, that  you are on the right track taking restrictions away that enable  you to gain greater and deeper insights into this.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Well, I am still willing to try and accept the 'tried and true theory of  reincarnation'... I am willing to deal with it if it proves to be true.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  Nothing wrong with being flexible. Having restrictions or limiting preconceptions about  any such ideas will not help you in finding out what might in fact &lt;i&gt;be &lt;/i&gt;behind the theory of reincarnation.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;But before diving deeper into this though, we have to be aware of the difference between:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reincarnation, the Tibetan Buddhist way in which say a Dalai Lama gets  reincarnated, a version of reincarnation in which only certain beings get that chance or privilege, and &lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;The Hindu belief in reincarnation in which everyone reincarnates  until one gets to jump off the karmic wagon and gains liberation or moksha.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Be that as it may, as for me, I myself don't hold to the concept of  reincarnation, although... I personally have quite a few memories of events that happened a long time ago, and I remember episodes from the lives of beings who apparently lived way before I was born... Somehow I retrieved long stretches of memory - some of which were also dealing with the evolution of life on earth and episodes in the  development of the cosmos - but I never felt the urge to view them as &lt;i&gt;my own&lt;/i&gt; personal memories.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Instead I felt an urge to look for a different understanding, and eventually I  found an explanation in which the concept of  "Akashic records" played a decisive role as I discovered and experienced that it is possible to gain access to the history of &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; previous living being or  &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; previously existing structure or dynamic when... needed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Why that can be so and how  that could be handy is quite an interesting topic for discussion.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; It seems to me that the tricky part in what you are saying is &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;who&lt;/i&gt; one considers oneself to be in that process of 'history retrieval' that you are describing.&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  But Brian,&lt;b&gt; one is always 'I'&lt;/b&gt;!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;By the way, it is remarkable that, to my knowledge,  English is the only language in which just one letter is used  to  represent one's identity: 'I', and moreover, it is a capitalized 'I'!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Everyone IS always I, and it &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;is a wondrous surprise when one discovers the significance of that.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;One finds that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;in &lt;i&gt;fully integrated awareness&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;everything/everybody/everyone shares in that one - I feel it as divine - "I"dentity.&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Wow!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;But Wim, let's be realistic, let's come down again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You see&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;, honestly, I still tend to think that we should consider ourselves to be a physically bundled assembly of desires, wants, reflexes, body  memories, etc., etc., all packaged in individual temporal physical forms. And something in me still wants to believe that we kind-of linearly go from one life to the next and that our karmic actions somehow control the nature and quality of those lives that we go through...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Yes, in&amp;nbsp; spite of what you just said... although I must say &lt;b&gt;'I'&lt;/b&gt; impressed me!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;In any case, and again realistically, we should really consider that because each one of us experiences himself or herself separately, that the eventual process of reincarnation indeed seems to  continue and revolve around each one of us individually.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  I don't think we need that consideration at all.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;  If, however, before the death process,...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;I'll cut you off here for a second, Brian... There is this  thing about death...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Hmm...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Death is a concept that  has to be seen as something radically different from how it is usually talked about by non-participating bystanders or onlookers. They only observe&lt;i&gt; from the outside&lt;/i&gt; and mistakenly assume that the one who is 'dying' so to speak, experiences the same thing - death - as what the onlooker sees as happening. As you know, I have many times talked about my brushes with 'death', when I accounted of my  various NDEs, and I must say, one - who &lt;i&gt;to the outsider &lt;/i&gt;appears to be 'dying' - does not experience any such thing at all. One seamlessly experi...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; OK, OK, Wim, I get it! I really think I do, so let me continue.&amp;nbsp; I am starting to see something that I'm sure you will agree with. If before or even during our "death process"  we are able to sufficiently self examine &lt;i&gt;what-and-who-we-actually-are&lt;/i&gt; and  consider or even &lt;i&gt;recognize&lt;/i&gt; our real self to be the sentience behind all the  bodily images, memories, etc, then the actual moksha-break will come to completion, will it not? &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Makes quite a bit of  sense, does it not?!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Brian:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Yeah, the  difference being that the memories/desires go on but they would not be  attached to us. I have no clue yet as to how these 'go on' without us though, but... alright...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; It has to do with: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;the &lt;i&gt;seamless continuum of integral awareness&lt;/i&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;i&gt;segmentation of what-one-is-aware-of&lt;/i&gt; as a function of or operation in the process of consciousness with enables each individual to make sense of that &lt;i&gt;continuum&lt;/i&gt; in terms of time, place and space,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;and... unfortunately &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;pseudo-consciousness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt; which is the result when that &lt;i&gt;seamless continuum of awareness&lt;/i&gt; is lost out of sight and when the &lt;i&gt;conscious segments as distinguished within the whole&lt;/i&gt; are treated as broken-up and separate, as though unrelated to each other. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Brian:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt; Could you elaborate on this &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;pseudo-consciousness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Wim:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;It is of course off-topic but OK...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;What is conventionally called 'consciousness' is in my view merely 'pseudo-consciousness', a clumsy and broken tool that is  used differently from how consciousness was originally designed to be applied.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;As every functional process has side-effects, so does consciousness. When those side-effects are exploited by people with abusive ulterior motives, they &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;become &lt;i&gt;adverse &lt;/i&gt;side-effects&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US"&gt;Pseudo-consciousness and  pseudo-self go shackled-hand-to-hand with &lt;i&gt;unilateral dependence, slavery, etc.&lt;/i&gt; as brought about by that exploitation.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Brian:&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/b&gt;Wim, you are saying, "I see 'pseudo-consciousness' as a tool that is used differently than how it was designed to be used."&lt;br /&gt;How was this 'pseudo-consciousness' designed to be used?&lt;br /&gt;What is the relationship between 'pseudo-consciousness' and I?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Consciousness by itself is a faculty designed by humans for humans to use to help their 'core awareness' live practically, efficiently and effectively in equal, reciprocal and mutual relationship with 'all that is' (Sanskrit 'om tat sat'.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I consider direct 'I Awareness' or 'Soham' the core of our being. (See Ramana Maharshi and his "Who am I" nondual inquiry.)&lt;br /&gt;I consider consciousness to be an extension of our core awareness, I don't place it at the top of what it means to be human, I view consciousness as a faculty - rather like a tool.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, just like any other tool can be used for purposes it was not originally designed for (a hammer can be used to help build houses but can also be used to clobber someone to death) and just like, for example, medication can have adverse side effects, the same counts for consciousness.&lt;br /&gt;Typical abuse or misuse of consciousness results when people with negative ulterior motives trick other humans into situations of stress and duress and then manipulate their victims to become dependent, they 'give them' so to say 'a piece of their mind'.&lt;br /&gt;This type of abuse is always accompanied by sentence-like verbalizations (judgments, curses, spells, sentencings, incriminations,) that get lodged in the mind (engrammatically engraved) of the one being manipulated.&lt;br /&gt;Internal dialog, could be seen as evidence of how inner conflict is really a conflict between oneself and one's usurper, one's conscience and the acquired or 'forced-upon-you' surrogate or pseudo-consciousness.&lt;br /&gt;When mental abuse of power occurs (remember... under duress and stress) core awareness of the recipient goes into hiding, moving out of harm's way. (Luckily to emerge again later after therapy or yoga or say, Vipassana meditation.)&lt;br /&gt;The original consciousness of the victim gets usurped by the manipulator and becomes pseudo-consciousness, the core of the victim's being goes on hold or in hiding and gets temporarily replaced by a pseudo-center (often called ego) and thus... the victim 'feels not him or herself anymore'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The aim of the manipulator is of course to create dependent underlings who will do the bidding of the manipulator.&lt;br /&gt;Words like manipulators, victimizers, power mongers are strong words, and the number of people operating that way may not be considered great. However underlying our common society structures are softer forms (more socially accepted versions) of manipulation they may be somewhat acceptable, although they can easily and eventually lead to excesses like consumerism, capitalism, communism, religious fanaticism, materialism, spiritualism, religionism, etc.... ergo all the various ways of cajoling innately free human beings into dependency to have them live under 'conditional conditions' set by hierarchic structures - behind which incidentally, those with 'agendas to take advantage of others' are hiding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Manipulators always include maneuvers and strategies in their creation and handling of dependents that make the manipulators go scot-free and have their victims incriminate themselves when they run into modes of suffering that are actually the result of external manipulative strategies... rather then the inadequacies that the victims tend to accuse themselves of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;That is not to say that it is not possible to have relatively well operating societies with hierarchical structures that safeguard a free society enabling people to retain their innate freedom while still functioning for mutual and common good.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;Examples from history are some Buddhist and Hindu kingdoms where enlightened kings/princes returned freedom back to those who used to be their underlings. A case in point is the ancient Khmer kingdom. (Angkor Wat - &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/history/A0827550.html"&gt;http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/history/A0827550.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;) in the region that now encompasses Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, etc.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;Khmer experienced many centuries of an enlightened society, although the history books don't necessarily account of it. Looking at its art though, its architecture, the agricultural infrastructure, they show clear evidence that a leader doesn't have to be the leader of a pack... but can help fellow human beings to regain their freedom... freedom that was only seemingly lost... (Suffering is the illusive appearance of seeming loss of freedom that is made to feel as though more real than reality.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;To see a fine Cambodia slideshow click the following link &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5mRvfpysz8"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5mRvfpysz8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #b45f06;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;(For another treatment on 'dropping the belief in reincarnation', please &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;read&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2007/09/karma-power-of-entrapment.html" style="color: red;"&gt;Karma and the power of Entrapment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;21 May, 2010&lt;/div&gt;&lt;dl class="avatar-comment-indent" id="comments-block"&gt;&lt;dd class="comment-footer"&gt;&lt;span class="comment-timestamp"&gt;&lt;span class="item-control blog-admin pid-1153864923"&gt;&lt;a class="comment-delete" href="http://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;amp;postID=5437617195799192745" title="Delete Comment"&gt; &lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt; &lt;/dd&gt;&lt;dt class="comment-author blog-author" id="c5344456257108030871"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=18596581&amp;amp;postID=2979213785915456787&amp;amp;from=pencil" name="c5344456257108030871"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/dt&gt;&lt;dd class="comment-body" id="Blog1_cmt-5344456257108030871"&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;dd class="comment-footer"&gt;&lt;span class="comment-timestamp"&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.freebynature.org/2010/05/reincarnation.html?showComment=1287369847389#c5344456257108030871" title="comment permalink"&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-2979213785915456787?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/2979213785915456787/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=2979213785915456787' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/2979213785915456787'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/2979213785915456787'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/05/reincarnation.html' title='Reincarnation, do we need it?'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-1889640195988800073</id><published>2010-05-18T18:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:34:25.727-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sympathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='passion'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='empathy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bodhisattva'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Compassion'/><title type='text'>The Language of Compassion</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #38761d;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;An Etymological Treatment of the Word Compassion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How are sympathy, empathy, passion and compassion related? Language-wise that is!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice how these four words all share the same letters 'pa'?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b style="color: #b45f06;"&gt;Passion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Many Greek words that start with the etymological root 'PA', have to do with 'feeding', 'caring for': &lt;span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Gulim;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;παω&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/span&gt;in Greek (pronounce "paoh").&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Words like &lt;i&gt;pater &lt;/i&gt;(papa, father), &lt;i&gt;pais &lt;/i&gt;(child/boy - as in paedophilia), pathos, pastor (shepherd - from the Latin pasco, to lead a herd or flock),&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;passio &lt;/i&gt;(suffering), passion, the Latin &lt;i&gt;panis (bread),&lt;/i&gt; the French &lt;i&gt;pain &lt;/i&gt;(bread) and even pasta all derive from the same root PA. And... so do the English words food, fodder and feeding. (Via Old English, Old Scottish and Old Frisian words like fodian, fedan, fuoten, fodjan.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The name of the planet Jupiter originally comes from the Greek name of the main&amp;nbsp;God in the Greek pantheon:&amp;nbsp;Ju-piter; it was originally&amp;nbsp;Dios-Pater or God the provider. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #b45f06; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The feeder - the father - Latin 'pater'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #b45f06; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #b45f06; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;the fed - the child - Greek&amp;nbsp;'ped'&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In Greek &lt;i&gt;pathos &lt;/i&gt;(Latin &lt;i&gt;passio&lt;/i&gt;) originally had the meaning of being fed, being cared for, being taken care off, undergoing. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Over time 'pathos' (as in pathology) also acquired the meaning of suffering, experiencing hunger, pain and anguish. In Latin the word &lt;i&gt;passio &lt;/i&gt;(suffering) and &lt;i&gt;passivus &lt;/i&gt;(passively undergoing) express the same meaning, hence the "Saint Matthew Passion" which has to do with the suffering of Christ before he died on the cross.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Interestingly, as to the word suffering, initially in English suffering did not necessarily have a pain connotation, it simply meant 'experiencing' or 'letting it be' as in the sentence Jesus used when he said, "Suffer the little children." * &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The interpretation of &lt;i&gt;pathos &lt;/i&gt;connoting feeling and sensation is apt, but when the interpretation includes experiencing an extra dose of passionate energy, it is even more apt. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The original self (the higher or inner self) uses pathos as feeling, experience, sensation, &lt;i&gt;undergoing the experience of being energized&lt;/i&gt;, being fed or supplied with &lt;i&gt;energy &lt;/i&gt;- the &lt;i&gt;stuff &lt;/i&gt;that is the origin of the original self.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #b45f06;"&gt;Compassion &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Compassion or sympathy (roughly equated with empathy in English) is what&amp;nbsp;Bodhisattvas apply when they deal&amp;nbsp;with beings who are energetically malnourished. A Bodhisattva helps the 'sufferer' to become re-energized.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;'Pathos' proper is the sensation mechanism of the higher or original self through the five senses or "the five skandhas" as Bodhisattva Avalokiteshvara calls it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Compassion or loving kindness is the mechanism &lt;b&gt;or gesture&lt;/b&gt; of healing... feeding...caring for...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Bodhisattvas feel &lt;i&gt;pathos&lt;/i&gt; as unconditioned energy flowing through themselves (shakti, soma, amrita) feeding them, nurturing them, conditioning them to share it universally with anything and anybody around them... unconditionally!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;* &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-size: x-small;"&gt;"And they brought young children to Him, that He should touch them: and His disciples rebuked those that brought them. But when Jesus saw it, He was much displeased, and said unto them, &lt;b&gt;Suffer the little children&lt;/b&gt; to come unto Me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-size: x-small;"&gt;~ Mark 10:13-14, see also &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: x-small;"&gt;&lt;span class="redheading"&gt;Matthew 19:14&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-size: x-small;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-1889640195988800073?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/1889640195988800073/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=1889640195988800073' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1889640195988800073'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/1889640195988800073'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/05/language-of-compassion.html' title='The Language of Compassion'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-548062645781176708</id><published>2010-05-18T15:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-26T14:13:39.247-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='liberation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='moksha'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='vegetarian'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='conditions'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ahimsa'/><title type='text'>To eat or not to eat</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; font-family: Times,&amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;,serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;or&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;To kill or not to kill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/S_MYlfK2CnI/AAAAAAAAHM0/fePzqcOClFU/s1600/Thou+Shalt+Not+Kill+Cartoon,blog.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="181" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/S_MYlfK2CnI/AAAAAAAAHM0/fePzqcOClFU/s400/Thou+Shalt+Not+Kill+Cartoon,blog.jpg" width="500" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"&gt;This cartoon is about animal sacrifice...&lt;br /&gt;The following few paragraphs are about  vegetarianism and liberation.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #990000;"&gt;Tony&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I am convinced that one can be spiritual and a meat-eater for example, but I don't really feel one can be a meat-eater and achieve &lt;i&gt;Moksha&lt;/i&gt; or Liberation, no matter the level of intellectual understanding. For Compassion and &lt;i&gt;Ahimsa &lt;/i&gt;are the nature of the Self and cannot be learned, they can only &lt;i&gt;become&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style="color: #990000;"&gt;Wim&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Why putting a condition on &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha"&gt;moksha &lt;/a&gt;or liberation?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When moksha or liberation is limited by or dependent on conditions it is not &lt;i&gt;truly free&lt;/i&gt;, is it?!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I came to a point where I ate only bread, honey, butter and drank fresh spring water, then I came to a point where I did not need to eat or drink anything at all... and I did not. Then I came to a point where I loved everything so much that I wanted to fully integrate, and eating or drinking anything was not a problem anymore.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;(Incidentally, there is quite a bit more to what Jesus said when he made himself fully available: flesh and blood, bread and wine and all.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-548062645781176708?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/548062645781176708/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=548062645781176708' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/548062645781176708'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/548062645781176708'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/05/to-eat-or-not-to-eat.html' title='To eat or not to eat'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/S_MYlfK2CnI/AAAAAAAAHM0/fePzqcOClFU/s72-c/Thou+Shalt+Not+Kill+Cartoon,blog.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-3601853730089410302</id><published>2010-04-27T21:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T23:35:40.838-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Pipal Tree'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Mahabodhi Mahavihara Temple'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Buddha'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bodh Gaya'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Bodhi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='enlightenment'/><title type='text'>Bodh Gaya</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="color: #b45f06;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: large;"&gt;The Mahabodhi Mahavihara Temple &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;Where the Buddha gained enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;object height="300" width="500"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/et6A_7pih5k&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;border=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/et6A_7pih5k&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x5d1719&amp;color2=0xcd311b&amp;border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="500" height="300"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The Mahabodhi Mahavihara and other Buddhist Sites in Bodh Gaya.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/18596581-3601853730089410302?l=www.freebynature.org' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.freebynature.org/feeds/3601853730089410302/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18596581&amp;postID=3601853730089410302' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3601853730089410302'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/18596581/posts/default/3601853730089410302'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.freebynature.org/2010/04/bodh-gaya.html' title='Bodh Gaya'/><author><name>William (Wim) Borsboom</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00825757939370791644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Bxx-UnVl-oI/TjsDRXOx2fI/AAAAAAAAISE/FdgUFu2dGxw/s220/William%2B-%2BWim.JPG'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18596581.post-613440416645318059</id><published>2010-04-26T23:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-30T23:01:04.143-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Karma and the Power of Entrapment</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/S4cejNpjsLI/AAAAAAAAGto/M_OQG9UmZdY/s1600-h/Adam+and+Eve+expelled.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TqYhtmrHgf8/S4cejNpjsLI/AAAAAAAAGto/M_OQG9UmZdY/s200/Adam+and+Eve+expelled.jpg" width="155" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;Bad Karma?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As long as you find a need to believe in and to defend the &lt;i&gt;idea &lt;/i&gt;of karma&lt;i&gt;,&lt;/i&gt; specifically&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;when it is claimed to be your own and... 'bad'&lt;br /&gt;and/or &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;when your belief has to do with 'past life karma',&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;you cannot fully appreciate that you are obliged and... able to take the freedom to release yourself from the &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;concept&lt;/b&gt; of karma &lt;/i&gt;and therefore the need to believe in it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;When one truly aims for liberation (moksha) and enlightenment (buddhi), radically dropping the idea of karma is a '&lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/sine-qua-non%29"&gt;sine qua non&lt;/a&gt;'... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If it is difficult for you to let go of the belief in karma, could that be because you believe that the negative judgments and remarks concerning your presence and/or quality of your presence in the world, are somehow warranted and cannot be &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; accepted?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;If that is so, then the early negative judgments that you incurred in your life&amp;nbsp; (judgments having to do with your presence or quality of your presence) must have tricked you into believing that they were deserved, warranted and apparently true.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;But you must realize that they – &lt;i&gt;against all appearances&lt;/i&gt; – can only have been unfair and unjustified, and that any subsequent judgments only &lt;i&gt;appeared&lt;/i&gt; more fair because of their... repetitiveness.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You must have been entrapped often enough to make those judgments 'appear' to be warranted, and eventually you even became conned into believing that &lt;i&gt;you yourself &lt;/i&gt;were the cause of anything negative that befell you, and&amp;nbsp; that you deserved 'all of it' because of your &lt;i&gt;presumed &lt;/i&gt;inadequacies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As this most likely took place repeatedly, you began to identify with the justifications that were directed your way by those who entrapped, tricked, accused and judged you. Eventually - &lt;i&gt;imaginarily&lt;/i&gt; - their judgments and justifications became part of your view of yourself, your '&lt;i&gt;inner self-image&lt;/i&gt;', and &lt;i&gt;verbally&lt;/i&gt; they became part of your '&lt;i&gt;inner dialogs'&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;These inside or internal dialogs however, are not just absurd mental dialogs between 'you and yourself',&amp;nbsp; they are actually the arguments between yourself and… your entrappers, accusers and judges, arguments about whether you deserved their judgments and treatments or not.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Unfortunately these arguments turned into &lt;i&gt;internal&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;lonesome &lt;/i&gt;dialogs, as the chances to have those dialogs &lt;i&gt;externally &lt;/i&gt;with those who duped you, were taken away.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;As long as your entrappers' justifications still have momentum and power over you ,and as long as you believe them to be valid, you will have a hard time remembering and recognizing your original innate freedom and authentic presence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It thus behooves you to stop these inner arguments so that you can reposition yourself in that original moment of coming-into-being, that moment &lt;i&gt;just before&lt;/i&gt; your existence became so unduly and unfairly questioned and judged.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;You might still remember instances when you were convinced that you were without fault and guilt, instances that you remember, in which you were unfairly and unjustly treated.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;You might still remember that you got trapped and tricked to act in certain ways that would compromise you, acts that would set you up to receive the judgments and sentences that were designed and intended to come your way… as though you deserved it, &lt;br /&gt;as though 'you had it coming'.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;It is the power and momentum of the repeated entrapments followed by their inevitable judgments, that made you accept your so-called incompetence and inadequacies, that made you deny or even forget that you had actually been trapped and cajoled into believing that your existence and presence was somehow 'justly' deemed to be unwelcome, problematic and inadequate.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;You eventually got so used to the stress and duress of those entrapments that those negative dynamics came to appear as 'realistic' qualities of your life, and made you believe that your assumed redundancy and shortcomings (the ones that you were talked into believing) were part of your reality.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;It wasn't your &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;karma that made you the way you think you are,&lt;br /&gt;it was the entrapper's work&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt; (1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt; that made you &lt;/i&gt;appear &lt;i&gt;that way.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: xx-small;"&gt;(1)&lt;/span&gt; Karma means act, action or work in Sanskrit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;Please click &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://free-by-nature.blogspot.com/2010/02/reincarnation-past-lives-and-karma.html" style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #cc0000;"&gt;to read about the need to drop the belief in 'past lives' karma  and reincarnation'.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;~~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Barry: &lt;/b&gt;Karma is so seemingly a common sense reality that the west adopted so readily to explain why we deserve what we get.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I would hardly want to take on such a obvious truth that has the stamp of approval from the wisest of wise sages of the Himalayan Yogi's of Tibet.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;However I think it was you, Wim, that opened my eyes to the fact that - If there is no such thing as Time, then how can something in your past cause you to pay for it in the present. Even I could find ways around that yet once the eyes are opened the view takes precedence over the concepts describing the view.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;I recently saw a video called "Yogis of Tibet" about the wisest and most exalted of the Tibetan Monks. Unlike the 10's of thousands of ordinary monks these individuals were singled out to isolate and gain mastery of their mind with intentions of achieving liberation.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;After the Chinese destroyed some 6000 Tibetan Monasteries and tortured and killed many of these sages the surviving Yogis in exile are continuing the heritage. Several of these sages spoke of Karma to explain what happened to their fellow monks in Tibet at the hands of the Chinese and how many of us are unhappy because of negative deeds we did in the past. It is hard not to challenge this notion from these particular sages.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Their brotherhood was a collective gathered on the principle of compassion. Their very lineage of teachings is from generations of sages that preceded their art of mind mastery and blessed them with skill and grace to obtain wisdom that built on the very knowledge of the Buddha.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;These are the ones that sat in the caves to obtain that flash of lightening leading to enlightenment. From that entire Sea of Compassion, surpassing conceptual holdings of thought related to time and space and self; how can they hold that the atrocities that be-fail their culture was caused by their group karma when their culture was held by the world to be the epitome of Compassion.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Entrapment due to belief has a tight grip and is one of those fettered things that we have to work to let go of. I am surprised that sages promote one of the things they would have overcome. Wim, I think that makes you a sage so thank you for the view.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Wim:&lt;/b&gt;I wrote this segment in the fall of 2007 but decided to republish it afresh after my wife one morning two weeks ago spoke the first paragraphs of this post virtually word by word...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Now, she never reads my blogs, nor - as it appears - does she need to, as apparently she comes by "my alleged wisdom" :-) all by herself.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Her pronouncement was almost triumphant. She clearly had figured it out, and she kept repeating how struck she was by the simplicity of her discovery: how she clearly saw and realized that this "past-life karma thing" was a conceptual figment in the mind only and that by just letting go of any belief in it in a radical manner, had been enough for her to become aware again of her original unadulterated goodness and unblemishedness.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;08 May, 2010&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Comment by Mitesh: &lt;/b&gt;Wim, I don't have any personal understanding about karma and past life, but I am not able to conclude a concrete logic for this. In your blog you say "that this 'past-life karma thing' was a conceptual figment in the mind only and that by just letting go of any belief in it in a radical manner....".&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Does it mean that past life karma or any thing from past life do not play any role in our present life ? On the other hand in your article "Death and free choice", the fifth choice says "One may select to pass through a state of individuality in which a benevolent understanding is reached by means of passing through a clear and understanding review
